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How to troubleshoot when laptop hangs without BSOD

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Hi there

One of my users laptop (Lenovo T410i) is frequently experiencing freezes and hangs to the point where it requires a Hard Reboot on the on/off-button.

But there are no discernible information related to this in the Eventlog and since this is not a BSOD there is no minidump to check through.

It's starting to feel like a hardware issue, but we have removed one of the 4GB modules  without any impact in stability. The machine is equipped with an SSD drive and is furthermore encrypted with Sophos SafeGuard.

I have run System Update from Lenovo and so far updated the Power Manager, the Power Manager Driver, the NIC driver and updated the BIOS - None of which seems to have worked.

Do you have any suggestions on where to go from here to troubleshoot the issue?
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Question by:Panthom
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by:John Hurst
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Most of the drivers you mentioned do not affect the SSD drive. Get a bootable CD (Ultimate Boot CD) and start the computer with the Boot CD (you will need a DVD drive). Let it run this way for a period of time and see if it crashes the same way.

If not, it could be a drive problem. You could check the website for the manufacturer of the SSD drive and see if they have any test tools.

.... Thinkpads_User
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by:Panthom
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I was not trying to imply that I expected there to be an issue with the SSD and perhaps I should not have let slip that I was starting to think in terms of Hardware error.

But I guess what I was looking for was alternatives to software troubleshooting when there is no information in the eventlog and no minidump-files since the machine freezes and has to be hard-booted.

Any suggestions?

Best Regards
Panthom
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by:John Hurst
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Go to Action Center and then the Maintenance Pull Down. Expand that and click on Reliability History.

If Windows is crashing, there should be errors in Reliability History. What kind of errors are you getting?

... Thinkpads_User
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you can troubleshoot 2 ways : soft and hard
1-soft :
a-use msconfig, and in the startup tab, click on disable all
now in the services tab, click Hide MS services, then clik disable all,
reboot and test
b-run a chkdsk on the drive
2-Hard :
use the minimum setup, as described in my article :
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Hardware/Components/Motherboards/A_1945.html                  (Short-overview-of-how-to-troubleshoot-bad-hardware-when-a-pc-does-not-post)
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by:Panthom
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A combination of the above asnwers led me to the conclusion that there was a motherboard issue. It will be replaced tomorrow :)
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by:John Hurst
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@Panthom - Thank you and thanks for the update. I was happy to help you with this.

.... Thinkpads_User
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by:nobus
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ditto
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