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I need to make some very small corrections for a PDF document which is going to publication. I have been using SODA PDF Professional as my PDF Editor. However I have run into problems, and Soda Support don't seem to be able to give me answers so far.

If I convert the document to Word format (I have a converter - Nuance) the document does not covert EXACTLY (extra blank pages and gaps within the text occur etc).  and so that solution wont work.

I have asked  Soda Support the following simple question.
 
Can you tell me:  HOW TO INSERT A SPACE in a line of text. I should be able to do this having clicked on the 'Edit and Inset' option and created the blue text box within which the editing is supposed to take place.   I can insert letters and delete them, however  when I press the Space Bar it does NOT insert a space. So there are no spaces between words.

I have noticed, too,  that the hypen (-) keystroke also  does not register.  When I try to insert a hypen such as in '2012-2013', it does not register (I get: 20122013). Yet the the underlining key  does work.
 
If I was able to insert spaces and hypens I would be able to do my editing.
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by:Joe Winograd, EE MVE
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I've been using PDF Editor Objects from CAD-KAS for many years:
http://www.cadkas.com/downengpdf12.php

It is easy to do simple text editing of PDFs. I'm using version 2.6, but I see that the latest is now 3.3. They offer a free download of both the 32-bit and 64-bit demo versions, although I don't know what restrictions they place on the demos. If you'd like to upload a page or two of your PDF file and tell me where you want spaces and hyphens inserted, I'll be glad to give it a try with my 2.6 version. Regards, Joe
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thanks for the offer. My version is 1,2,147,1561

The document is over 500 pages long. There are 2 pages on which I want to make small changes. HOW DO I EXTRACT these pages from the PDF File, using Soda?
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I don't know Soda...never used it...but according to its website, there's an ability to split PDFs into smaller docs as well as extract pages. Here's a screenshot from [http://sodapdf.com/features/edit-pdf]:
SodaDo you see the Split PDF and/or Extract features in your Soda version?
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Btw, if your Soda can't split or extract, here's a website that can do it:
http://www.splitpdf.com/

Click the "More" link so it gives you an entry for the second page. It should look like this:
pdfsplit websiteThen just upload the whole file and specify the two pages you need, such as:
123   123
406   406

In the above example, the website will send back a zip file with two PDFs in it...one called [original-filename.123.pdf] and the other [original-filename.406.pdf].
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I have done it. I am sending the page as an attachmeni ( Attachment 1).

I am sending a second attachment (Attachment 2) which shows the end result I require (namely the  top few lines of Attachment 1, need to be modified to appear as the first four lines of attachment 2.

I will be out for a few hours, but will get back to you.
Attachment-1.pdf
Attachment-2.pdf
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by:Joe Winograd, EE MVE
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I'm a bit confused. Originally, you said that you just need to be able to insert spaces and hyphens. Now it seems that one line needs to be replaced with four lines, namely,

After that the record is silent.

needs to be changed to

However the headstone on her grave – she is buried in
Lantoro cemetery, near Fr. Coquard – tells us that having
devoted her life to the care of lepers and the sick-poor in the
Sacred Heart Hospital she died on 7th October 1944.

(And the "th" in "7th" should be a superscript.)

Is that what you want? If so, a big problem is space on the page. The font of Attachment 1 is PalatinoLinotype-Roma 12-point. The font of Attachment 2 is PalatinoLinotype 11-point. I don't know if the "Roma" represents an important difference, but I do know that the four lines of 11-point text will not fit (as 12-point text) in the one line of 12-point text. I just tried it and the last two lines:

wagons against a hostile and ungodly world. On the ground
it meant, among other things, that those who did not belong

rolled onto a second page. How do you want to handle this?

Btw, you said earlier that you have a Nuance converter – which product? Include the version and edition, such as PDF Converter Professional 8. Regards, Joe
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Sorry about the four lines  Joe.

 My converter is Nuance PDf Converter, version 6 (not the professional one). Perhaps that is the reason why it failed to convert accurately the 500 page document. Now that I am able to split the document into a single page, I will try it again and see whether the result is better. I will edit it and then reconvert it to PDF format and then insert it in the document. I will let you know how I get on.
If this does not work I will get back to you as to your query about the four lines.
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It worked. I was able to convert the page to Word Format, edit it (actually I reduced the size of the font in order to get the four extra lines in) and re-create the page as pdf. Then I added it to the document, using Soda. It fits in perfectly.

I am really grateful, because you pointed me in the right direction. Clearly I need to update my Nuance programs for pdf files, and also  update my version of Soda.
The document is a book which has been published in Africa and will be published now in U.K. - for which i am sending them the pdf file. I needed to put in the four lines as I had just discovered the location of a vital grave and wanted to include it in the U.K. version.  Thanks again Joe.  Being able to split the pdf file made the difference. It made the whole thing manageable - the Nuance programs were able to handle the smaller files.
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Additionally, Joe, I find that the spacing key and the hyphen key both work with the smaller (split) document. Both did NOT work with the 500 page document. It means that when working on a large document with Soda I should split it into smaller sections and then work on each section.
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Wow! That's all great news! Btw, I have Nuance PDF Converter Professional 8...it is an excellent product. In addition to converting PDF to Word, it has an "Advanced Edit" mode that lets you directly edit PDF files. I tried it on your Attachment 1 and it edited it fine. Keep an eye out for deals on Pro8...although the list price is $100 USD, the street price is around $50 USD, sometimes less. Also, Nuance currently has the PDF Converter Enterprise 8 trial version available at its UK website:

http://www.nuance.co.uk/for-business/by-product/pdf/pdf-converter-enterprise/trial-version/index.htm

Note that this is the Enterprise 8 edition, not Professional 8. You may see the differences between PDFConvPro8 and PDFConvEnt8 in the file called [PDF Solution Family Comparison – Executive Summary.pdf] here:

http://sites.google.com/site/wikipaperport/files/

Would be interesting to give it a spin and see how it works for you. Good luck with your book! Regards, Joe
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