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hi ive been reading the below links:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverDS/thread/454149e5-0f96-40b3-8cd2-14aaf842d806/

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc785925(WS.10).aspx

i currently have a windows 2003 domain and configured for 'roaming user profiles, via my 'file & print server', but confused as to whether i should also configure for 'folder redirection' for the domain users aswell..?

im also thinking that the answer should be yes if i have users logging on from home, who would not neccessarily be joining the domain via their laptop but having 'folder redirection' would play a part in this particular issue..?

im also thinking if there were multiple departments spanning geographically wherever but part of say the same domain or a child domain then this is also where 'folder redirection' would play a part in this particular issue.. ?

or im also thinking each geographic local local for each department of same sub companies will have their own local 'file server' for example, but if a main central headquarters of the company wanted to save all company employees work folder, then they could configure the 'folder redirection'... ?

then im thinking that does quite make sense, so lost!!

qns1.  can anyone give me some clarity ?
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by:Jason Watkins
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The roaming profiles save user data and settings to the file server already. I think configuring folder redirection would ber a redundant setting.

How are the users logging in from home? MS RDP? The roaming profile should apply in those cases as well.

If you have departments that are separated geographically, then  I would try to get a file server in each location. The traffic generated by roaming profiles can clog up a WAN link quickly.

People would have to be a part of the same domain to share the same folder redirection policy.
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hi, folder redirection redundant - thought so!!

currently no home users are logging in from home, but previously i setup 'dfs'.

your comment:

"how are the users logging in from home? ms rdp? The roaming profile should apply in those cases as well."

my comment:

so running ms rdp from home is another ok method...uuummm personally i dont use rdp although have tried it but local, from one pc to another..1

your comment:
"if you have departments that are separated geographically, then  i would try to get a file server in each location. the traffic generated by roaming profiles can clog up a wan link quickly. "

my comment:

yes that is what i meant, each geographic location (would) have its own file server..1

im still missing the point as have not got the history understood correctly as all i know is we have the following for saving users profiles & day to day work..:

- roaming users profiles via - file servers
- gpmc/folder redirection - also via file servers same location as roaming users
- dfs - more robust apparantely

if i setup a vpn for a home user i could add 'dfs', which works as ive tried & tested it as far as can open folder and access & save my work, as for this redirection, not getting it but yes i have used it, but there is roaming user folders but u say 'folder redirection' redundant.!

if it was stated that 'folder redirection' was more robust and effectively may aswell replace roaming user folders then ok..!!

unless, when there happens to be some slow network connection, then maybe this 'folder redirection', plays its part.!!

i need a practical example to understand ?
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I suggested RDP because it gives a consistent support scenario, unless you want to get into troubleshooting a user's home PC in attempting to connect to the VPN.

DFS is more robust, if more than one file server is used to host the shares. If you only have one file server, then it may not offer any advantage, except for future growth.

Folder redirection does not offer the same user experience as roaming profiles. It (folder redirection) is more reliable than roaming profiles, IMHO.
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hi, ok i understand your other comments!!! :)

your comment:

"folder redirection does not offer the same user experience as roaming profiles. it (folder redirection) is more reliable than roaming profiles, imho."

my comment:

ok but why does folder redirection not offer the same user experience as roaming profiles ?

im aware that roaming profiles keeps a users data in the same way it was, so if a user makes changes the system will return back to its original settings once logged off and back on.!

qns1.  ok, when would only use roaming profiles and when would u use folder redirection only, or would u use both ?
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Folder redirection just re-maps things like Documents and other folders. I do not believe it copies things like IE favorites and things like desktop wallpaper, which is so important to some people :)

I would use roaming profiles only when users had to have the same profile and settings on each computer they used. I would use folder redirection when a user's documents folder and such needs to be redirected to a server. I use the latter and not the former. There is just no justifiable need for my users to have a roaming profile as they only ever use their one PC.
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hi, ohhhh, i should have realised!!!

"there is just no justifiable need for my users to have a roaming profile as they only ever use their one pc" - yes i understand this, but a 'folder redirection' could be used to save a users data on the 'file server'.. that being said if a users pc crashed and you could not access the pc or fix issue in order to log back on then, unless the users 'favourites', were saved then they would also be lost ..!! ok clearer!! :)
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With folder redirection, if a user's machine died, they would get their data back providing they saved it to the redirected folders. If the desktop was not redirected, for example, and they saved things there, they would be gone. Favorites are important, but not the kind of show-stopper lost data can be.
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ok thanks for that clarity, i completely forgot that 'roaming profiles' saves a users configurations, whereas the 'folder redirdection' only saves the users day to day work!!!

appreciated!!
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What you are going to do depends on the level of recovery needed and the working environment. We have a launch page on the Intranet, that contains all of the user's important URLs, so they only have to remember one link. Personal and non-work links are not my responsibility. If someone does not have their bookmark to Facebook, it is not an actual "Problem". Keeping data on the server is forced with folder redirection and education. The users know if they keep it on the server, I can get it back. I do a fair amount of user education and not hand-hold them through everything.
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ok thanks for that!!!!! :)
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sound advice!!!!!!!!!
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Glad I can help. Thanks for the points
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