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Windows 7 Pro workstation in SBS 2003 network VERY SLOW login & network share browsing.
Hello!
Issues: Windows 7 Pro 64-bit w/ new OS Very Slow login (3-6 minutes) to SBS 2003 server and very, very slow browsing network shares (45-90 seconds to open a subfolder) or accessing network resources (like Exchange server). Old Win XP boxes are almost instant when browsing.
Environment: Affected workstation is about 3 years old, Core 2 Duo w/ 4GB RAM w/ fresh Win 7 Pro OS, very snappy except the slowness mentioned above. SBS 2003 server, SP2 and most updates, Intel box, dual quad core Xeon processors, 4GB, RAM, plenty of free space on 2 RAID arrays, 500GB each, windows level Mirror (I inherited this…no idea why previous tech did this w/ very nice RAID controller on Intel MoBo), server performs well, especially given its age. About 4 years ago I “reclaimed” a client that had a 1 year old server, at that time. The server had multiple very odd issues we discovered when we 1) implemented normal use of the Exchange server, 2) implemented RWW for a user. I won’t bore you with the details but we got things working properly but I mention it because it may be relevant to the current issues.
The workstation worked normally on our workbench during OS load and installation of multiple software programs in preparation for introduction into SBS environment. Joining domain went normally up to the point when the normal routine of rebooting and logging in the domain for the first time…very slow!! After this slowness, I set IP & DNS static to assure SBS server was the only DNS server…no improvement. I check the server to verify the machine was in the correct organization computer group. I updated the BIOS and NIC driver to the latest versions, no improvement. I also tried this I found in a technet post “If it does not work, please also configure Send LM & NTLM - use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated (Level 1) for the Group Policy “Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local Policies\Security Options
”: Clients use LM and NTLM authentication and use NTLMv2 session security if the server supports it; domain controllers accept LM, NTLM, and NTLMv2 authentication.” Oddly, it seemed to help for about 20 seconds then the speed came to a crawl again.
I’m at my wits end…any help is MUCH APPRECIATED!!!
Issues: Windows 7 Pro 64-bit w/ new OS Very Slow login (3-6 minutes) to SBS 2003 server and very, very slow browsing network shares (45-90 seconds to open a subfolder) or accessing network resources (like Exchange server). Old Win XP boxes are almost instant when browsing.
Environment: Affected workstation is about 3 years old, Core 2 Duo w/ 4GB RAM w/ fresh Win 7 Pro OS, very snappy except the slowness mentioned above. SBS 2003 server, SP2 and most updates, Intel box, dual quad core Xeon processors, 4GB, RAM, plenty of free space on 2 RAID arrays, 500GB each, windows level Mirror (I inherited this…no idea why previous tech did this w/ very nice RAID controller on Intel MoBo), server performs well, especially given its age. About 4 years ago I “reclaimed” a client that had a 1 year old server, at that time. The server had multiple very odd issues we discovered when we 1) implemented normal use of the Exchange server, 2) implemented RWW for a user. I won’t bore you with the details but we got things working properly but I mention it because it may be relevant to the current issues.
The workstation worked normally on our workbench during OS load and installation of multiple software programs in preparation for introduction into SBS environment. Joining domain went normally up to the point when the normal routine of rebooting and logging in the domain for the first time…very slow!! After this slowness, I set IP & DNS static to assure SBS server was the only DNS server…no improvement. I check the server to verify the machine was in the correct organization computer group. I updated the BIOS and NIC driver to the latest versions, no improvement. I also tried this I found in a technet post “If it does not work, please also configure Send LM & NTLM - use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated (Level 1) for the Group Policy “Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local Policies\Security Options
”: Clients use LM and NTLM authentication and use NTLMv2 session security if the server supports it; domain controllers accept LM, NTLM, and NTLMv2 authentication.” Oddly, it seemed to help for about 20 seconds then the speed came to a crawl again.
I’m at my wits end…any help is MUCH APPRECIATED!!!
check on windows 7 is there useless features turned on.. if yes make then turn off..
like in print and document services... internet printing service, windows fax and scan..
1.Click the Start button , click Control Panel, click Programs, and then click Turn Windows features on or off. If you're prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
check these ..
all the best
like in print and document services... internet printing service, windows fax and scan..
1.Click the Start button , click Control Panel, click Programs, and then click Turn Windows features on or off. If you're prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
check these ..
all the best
I expect DNS, how long does it take to resolve when you do nslookup from a WIN7 machine?
Something specific to WIN7 is IPv6, which SBS2003 won't have in DHCP. I would uncheck IPv6 on the WIN7 machines and test, I expect they may speed up after doing so.
Something specific to WIN7 is IPv6, which SBS2003 won't have in DHCP. I would uncheck IPv6 on the WIN7 machines and test, I expect they may speed up after doing so.
I have some Win7 and SBS2003 working without problems in my organization.
First I will recommend that this machines have a different name than the old WinXP ones.
Second, disable IPv6 and then check your DNS settings, flush and rebuild them on the stations.
Must of the time this is a problem related to credentials authentication problems as the machine is not able to find a good DNS server to authorize the machine to request for user authentication.
Once you DNS search and resolve issue is gone your machines should boot and request for password very fast.
First I will recommend that this machines have a different name than the old WinXP ones.
Second, disable IPv6 and then check your DNS settings, flush and rebuild them on the stations.
Must of the time this is a problem related to credentials authentication problems as the machine is not able to find a good DNS server to authorize the machine to request for user authentication.
Once you DNS search and resolve issue is gone your machines should boot and request for password very fast.
ASKER
THANK YOU for your post to help!!!
We have other clients that have been using Vista then Win 7 in SBS 2003 environments for over 3 years with NO problems! I truly suspect it is something on the SERVER SIDE! But I don’t know what it is.
I verified the IP and DNS was set static, broke the relationship with the server. Unchecked IPv6 in NIC properties. Removed the computer name from the server, added a slightly different name for the computer, rejoined using the standard IE method and then again by Change Settings link in System Properties. Same results…very slow login and very slow browsing mapped network drive!!! Logging off to restart goes quickly…the login Kills me!
I did a flushdns and then registerdns, no change.
I checked Windows 7 features, nothing excessive there but I disabled a few things.
Doing a nslookup from the problematic system, the only Win 7 system it is quick…2 seconds maybe. Drilling down into a subfolder on a mapped network drive is LONG and painful…20 seconds or so!!
If I map the drive via IP address rather than servername, the result is the same…SLOW AND PAINFUL!!
Any more help is Greatly Appreciated!!!
We have other clients that have been using Vista then Win 7 in SBS 2003 environments for over 3 years with NO problems! I truly suspect it is something on the SERVER SIDE! But I don’t know what it is.
I verified the IP and DNS was set static, broke the relationship with the server. Unchecked IPv6 in NIC properties. Removed the computer name from the server, added a slightly different name for the computer, rejoined using the standard IE method and then again by Change Settings link in System Properties. Same results…very slow login and very slow browsing mapped network drive!!! Logging off to restart goes quickly…the login Kills me!
I did a flushdns and then registerdns, no change.
I checked Windows 7 features, nothing excessive there but I disabled a few things.
Doing a nslookup from the problematic system, the only Win 7 system it is quick…2 seconds maybe. Drilling down into a subfolder on a mapped network drive is LONG and painful…20 seconds or so!!
If I map the drive via IP address rather than servername, the result is the same…SLOW AND PAINFUL!!
Any more help is Greatly Appreciated!!!
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There was no solution, I had to move backwards, but it worked.
Use static IP and DNS / wins for the join and see if that helps.
Regards
Gordon