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Hello,

nothing like trying to make the old work with the new to get the blood flowing in the veins, eh?!
Who's with me?!
ok... so I NEED to get M$ access 97 runtime to work in windows 7. Has anyone been able to accomplish this? It can not be full versions of access because of security risks. I know and have successfully made the regular version of access 97 work on a win 7 machine (by following steps found on this site changing a few font files etc). However, I have had zero luck getting JUST the runtime to work.

Unfortunately,  there is no option to upgrade the databases to new versions of access atm...

Put your thinking caps on fellow IT sufferers!
Thanks in advance... lots of real Java to the winner!
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Note that Microsoft does *not* support A97 running in Win7.  So ... even ... if you get it to work, all bets are off.

Just sayin ...

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by:Norm Dickinson
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My suggestion would be to run a virtual machine with an older operating system such as xp or 2000, and run the Access 97 runtime in the VM.
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by:Gustav Brock
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Yes, save your trouble and download and install the free XP Mode virtual machine:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/windows-xp-mode

/gustav
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by:Norm Dickinson
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Thanks, Gustav. Also available for free is the VMWare Player. Simply install it and then you can create any number of virtual machines; all you need is the OS installation disc or an ISO file. This is also a great way to experiment with free preview editions, Linux, test environments and so much more. You can even virtualize an existing computer using their free VMWare VCenter Converter Standalone. Enjoy.
https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/downloads
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Yes, we use VMware Server a lot. Runs rock stable.

The trick with XP Mode is that the license for Windows XP running in this is free and included.

/gustav
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The limitation with the XP Mode is, as quoted from the above link, "Designed primarily with small- and medium-sized businesses in mind, Windows XP Mode comes as a separate download and works only with Windows 7 Professional, Ultimate, and Enterprise." It also enforces a licensing verification routine that will not allow it to install on a Windows 7 machine that has not been activated, which can hamper certain test environment protocols where you would want to make sure everything is working perfectly before "burning" the activation with your license keycode. Also the VMWare player allows a multitude of operating systems - with the drawback that you would need to have the license key code for the OS as if it were a standalone computer. Pros and cons for each, but still a valid path to resolve this kind of problem.
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That's true.
However, we have only clients running fully licensed software so it has never been an issue.

A worse limitation is that it is Win7 only, no Windows 8.

/gustav
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Thank you for the responses!
*Yes* I know it would not be supported;
*VMWare* although an effective solution for some situations (which I have used), I dont believe would be efficient or effective in this case (I need to roll it out to 140 workstations). and the amount of IT support after would probably cause my brain to pop...
*xp mode* unfortunately, the install just fails out with "wrong o/s" error.

Keep em coming... Thanks!!!
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> Make sure you're running Windows 7 Professional, Enterprise, or Ultimate.

> I need to roll it out to 140 workstations ...

Those editions are typical for corporate use. Do you really run one of the Home editions??

/gustav
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no, we are on Win7 professional...
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so just to clarify, I am looking to have M$ Access 97 RUNTIME to work in windows 7 Professional...
Cheers!
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by:Norm Dickinson
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Perhaps a single VM located on the server using Remote Desktop Services (terminal server style) would allow the rollout to be more efficient. Also available, for a fee, are cloud services such as RackSpace.com where you could roll out virtual workstations as needed and connect to them over the web.
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> we are on Win7 professional...

Then the XP Mode _will_ install as seen at the opening page of the link I posted - _if_ your Windows is updated beyond a certain level (which I cannot recall) and some hardware requirements are met (which most newer machines do):

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7

Another feature is the "One click launch of Windows XP Mode applications" which - quite easily - will let you create a shortcut on the Win7 desktop that opens the XP and launces your app framed in a window that looks like any other Windows app - in other words: the XP desktop etc. is not visible for the user.

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Ok here is the latest...

I have XP mode working and one of the access programs works (It doesnt have any security on it). But the access databases that have login security on them will not open...

Altho the virtual machine is not ideal, If there is no other options to simply run the access 97 Runtime, then I guess it will have to be...


Also, I did find this download, http://donnedwards.openaccess.co.za/2007/03/finally-access97-runtime-installs.html

which seemed to work as well... but same login error issue....
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Hi, Here is the final update...

I was able to ger Access97 runtime to work on both Win7 and Win8 by using the download:
http://donnedwards.openaccess.co.za/2007/03/finally-access97-runtime-installs.html

I added the ODBC database connections using the 32 bit version located: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\odbcad32.exe

I then pointed the shortcut to "start in: C:\dev\office" (where the access97 runtime is)

Then edited the shortcut to point to the correct mde:
Entire shortcut {--
 C:\dev\office\msaccess.exe "X:\Common\apps\util.mde" /wrkgrp "P:\Common\apps\mdws\APPS.MDW" /user --}
(you can edit the "user" to put the actual user name in if want).

Huge shout out to Donn Edwards who made the access97 runtime program install.

Thank you to those who suggested other fixes.

Hopefully this helps some other poor sap like me who just needed to make an old program work on new stuff!

Good Luck!
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Thanks for the round up!

/gustav
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Updated solution That I came to in order to make it work.
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