SBS 2011 Essentials cannot be seen by SERVER 2003 on same network
I have a new SBS 2011 Essentials SERVER on a network with 2 2003 SERVERS.
There are also 2 new WIN7 PCs unnassigned as well as 15 WinXP PCs currently joined to the 2003 domain
1. SBS 2011 Essentials (BESTFL)and it's domain is BEST.LOCAL IP Address 10.0.0.200 Static
2. Server 1 (BEST_CS) is 2003 Standard with AD services runnning - Best_Fl.NET domain @ IP 10.0.0.2 STATIC
3. Server 2 (FAXSERVERII) is a 2003 Standard Server which is running as a stand-alone fax server (no AD and not "joined" to the 2003 domain, it is on the Best_FL workgroup) @ IP 10.0.0.105 STATIC
4. All three SERVERs all have the SAME USERNAME/PASSWORD for their ADMIN accounts
5. All the machines can PING each other, no problem
6. From the SBS SERVER I cannot see anything but the two WIN7 workstations and itself when I go to view networks. (Network discovery is ON) BUT I can access the 2003 servers and their shares if I type in the server name (\\Best_CS) -
6A. Win7 PCs act the same as the SBS
7. Neither of the 2003 servers see the domain BFL.LOCAL in the "Entire Network", "Microsoft Windows Network" - They only see B_F.NET and workgroup. I also CANNOT type in the SBS server name and access it from them. (\\BESTFL)
8. After much reading I have decided to just remove these WIN XP pcs from BF.NET. and then connect them to the new SBS BFL.LOCAL domain and recreate their profiles.
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The problem I am having is I can see the (2) 2003 Servers from the SBS2011 box (by typing in the servers name only) but I cannot see the SBS box from EITHER of the 2 2003 servers. They are all on the same IP range and subnet, same gateway, etc...
I can access and copy data from the 2 servers from the SBS server (so I can duplicate the drives and files therein).
I need to be able to make the 2003 Fax Server connect to the SBS 2011 Server so I can recreate the mapped shared drives from the 2011 SBS server to make sure this PC will work correctly after I remove the 2003 AD server (where these mapped drive are now).
Any insight as to why this is so and a remedy to allow these 2 2003 servers to see and access the 2011 Essentials server?
There are also 2 new WIN7 PCs unnassigned as well as 15 WinXP PCs currently joined to the 2003 domain
1. SBS 2011 Essentials (BESTFL)and it's domain is BEST.LOCAL IP Address 10.0.0.200 Static
2. Server 1 (BEST_CS) is 2003 Standard with AD services runnning - Best_Fl.NET domain @ IP 10.0.0.2 STATIC
3. Server 2 (FAXSERVERII) is a 2003 Standard Server which is running as a stand-alone fax server (no AD and not "joined" to the 2003 domain, it is on the Best_FL workgroup) @ IP 10.0.0.105 STATIC
4. All three SERVERs all have the SAME USERNAME/PASSWORD for their ADMIN accounts
5. All the machines can PING each other, no problem
6. From the SBS SERVER I cannot see anything but the two WIN7 workstations and itself when I go to view networks. (Network discovery is ON) BUT I can access the 2003 servers and their shares if I type in the server name (\\Best_CS) -
6A. Win7 PCs act the same as the SBS
7. Neither of the 2003 servers see the domain BFL.LOCAL in the "Entire Network", "Microsoft Windows Network" - They only see B_F.NET and workgroup. I also CANNOT type in the SBS server name and access it from them. (\\BESTFL)
8. After much reading I have decided to just remove these WIN XP pcs from BF.NET. and then connect them to the new SBS BFL.LOCAL domain and recreate their profiles.
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The problem I am having is I can see the (2) 2003 Servers from the SBS2011 box (by typing in the servers name only) but I cannot see the SBS box from EITHER of the 2 2003 servers. They are all on the same IP range and subnet, same gateway, etc...
I can access and copy data from the 2 servers from the SBS server (so I can duplicate the drives and files therein).
I need to be able to make the 2003 Fax Server connect to the SBS 2011 Server so I can recreate the mapped shared drives from the 2011 SBS server to make sure this PC will work correctly after I remove the 2003 AD server (where these mapped drive are now).
Any insight as to why this is so and a remedy to allow these 2 2003 servers to see and access the 2011 Essentials server?
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The FSMO role for the BEST_FL domain is held by the 2003 server and the FSMO role for the BEST domain is held by the new 2011 SBS server. I have decided to just migrate the old domain PCs from the 2003 to the 2011 by detaching them from the old domain, changing their primary DNS to the point to the new domain, and then join them to the new SBS server. It seems a lot easier than a true migration based on my research (2003 Standard to 2011 SBS Essentials)
It seems a lot easier than a true migration based on my research (2003 Standard to 2011 SBS Essentials)
If you want to leverage the benefits of SBS 2011 Essentials you really need to follow the documentation.
There are a number of features that will not work properly if you just manually join the computers to the new domain.
Automated Workstation Backup
Remote Web Access
Management of computers from the console
Furthermore, manually joining the workstations will not put them in the correct OU in Active Directory (MyBusiness\Computers\SBSC
So you should definitely join workstations to the domain using http://<SERVERNAME>/connect
As for your other servers, since they were in a different domain, and you are not migrating from that domain you need to be sure to demote the DC and get it into a workgroup, and then use http://<SERVERNAME>/connect to join it to your new domain.
This will ensure that they get the above services and are put into the proper OU in Active Directory.
Jeff
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You've confused me. Let me know one point here. I understood that there are 2 domains in 1 forest (BEST_FL and BEST) and each domain has DCs. If this is correct then you shall use ADMT tool to migrate to one domain
If you are referring to BEST_FL and BEST as DCs then you need to use below link.
http://technet.microsoft.c
If you are referring to BEST_FL and BEST as DCs then you need to use below link.
http://technet.microsoft.c
@zevnvenky -- You cannot use ADMT as it is impossible to have 2 domains in 1 forest when an SBS is involved.
The correct method would have been to install the new SBS 2011 Essentials in MIGRATION MODE which handles all of this automatically. Since that wasn't done, the old domain must be abandoned.
Jeff
TechSoEasy
The correct method would have been to install the new SBS 2011 Essentials in MIGRATION MODE which handles all of this automatically. Since that wasn't done, the old domain must be abandoned.
Jeff
TechSoEasy
Yes, I'm aware of it. That's why I gave SBS migration options link.
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I am accepting my own comments as the solution because no one even hinted at the cause of the problem being in the IP addresses of the computers or the DHCP inconsistencies. I awarded myself a "C" because my solution was based on my ability to see the configuration which you were not privy to. Again, thank you for the input and suggestions.
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