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How to upload a strange sound on my system so you can hear it?

How to upload a strange sound on my system so you can hear it?
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Scott CSenior Systems EnginerCommented:
You're going to have to provide more information.  That question doesn't make sense.
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nickg5Author Commented:
I heard a strange sound coming from my speakers. Short like 3 keys of a musical instrument and the three keys were pressed over a period of maybe 2 seconds to create the sound.

I closed all programs and still it was there. I looked in my program list and nothing unusual.
Deleted all temporary files.

Still the sound. I have it recorded on a tape player.
I guess I can uplaod audio to youtube but never done any uploading of videos or audio.

I know a couple times I have heard CB radios or ham radios on my speakers when the pc was turned off. This was not voices, a specific sound.
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Joe Winograd, EE Fellow 2017, MVE 2016, MVE 2015DeveloperCommented:
Hi Nick,

Two ideas:

(1) Record the sound with an external device, like a smartphone or tablet. It will make some kind of an audio files, such as MP3, WAV, WMA, etc. Then copy the file to your PC or use the EE mobile site on your device.

http://mobile.experts-exchange.com/

(2) Run the Sound Recorder applet on your PC (Programs>Accessories>Sound Recorder). This will create a WMA file.

After making the file in one of these two ways, click the Attach File link under the Post a Comment box and browse to the audio file. Regards, Joe
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Joe Winograd, EE Fellow 2017, MVE 2016, MVE 2015DeveloperCommented:
Nick,
Our posts just crossed. If you already have it on tape, just fire up Sound Recorder (Programs>Accessories>Sound Recorder) and play the tape recorder. This will make a WMA file. Then click Attach File below to upload into a post. Regards, Joe
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JohnnyCanuckCommented:
Since you have the sound on tape you could plug the tape recorders audio out into a computers audio in or mic jack.  Then cue up your sound clip so its ready to play and open sound recorder on the computer (all programs->accessories->sound recorder on Win 7).  Click record on sound recorder then hit play on the tape recorder.  Press stop when the sound has completed playing, and save it as a .wav file.  Then you should be able to attach it to a post here.
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JohnnyCanuckCommented:
Looks like we all had the same idea but I was the slowest (sigh).
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nickg5Author Commented:
I have Windows Vista but I think there is a sound recorder.
I have no jack or wire for pocket recorder to pc connection.
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Scott CSenior Systems EnginerCommented:
Here you go.  A sound recorder that will work under Vista.

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
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Joe Winograd, EE Fellow 2017, MVE 2016, MVE 2015DeveloperCommented:
> I have Windows Vista but I think there is a sound recorder.

Yes, all Windows versions have the Sound Recorder applet that I mentioned above. You should be able to find it in the Accessories group.

> I have no jack or wire for pocket recorder to pc connection.

You don't need to connect the tape recorder to the PC. Just play it at a high volume and let the built-in microphone record it (most PCs have a built-in mic, but if yours doesn't, then purchase an inexpensive one and plug it into the mic jack, which all PCs have). Regards, Joe
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nickg5Author Commented:
Sadly I have never hooked a mic to my pc.
I don't see anything that looks like a "wireless" one on the tower anywhere on the front.

I think I have one that is used with web cameras and such.
I'll figure out how to hook it up tomorrow.
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Joe Winograd, EE Fellow 2017, MVE 2016, MVE 2015DeveloperCommented:
Laptops almost always have a built-in condenser mic...not so with desktops. Your tower should have two audio jacks that take 3.5mm cables...one is for speakers/headset OUT (usually green) and the other is for a microphone IN (usually pink). They're typically in the back, but sometimes in the front. They'll probably look something like this (the blue one is for Line In):
audio jacksThe mic that is used with webcams should be fine. Just plug it into the mic (probably pink) port. Regards, Joe
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nobusCommented:
when do you hear this sound nick?
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nickg5Author Commented:
nobus:
I have not heard the sound again after May 10th at the time of my question.
But it vaguely coincided with a period of time when I believe there was e-mail hacking or spying on my system by someone wanting to "see" versus "destroy via virus."

Joe:
I can not seem to find my mic that has a blue, green, and pink connectors.
Will this one work?

There is a green and pink connector on the front of my tower.
The green one in the back feeds my speaker system.

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Joe Winograd, EE Fellow 2017, MVE 2016, MVE 2015DeveloperCommented:
Nick,
Yes, that will work. Plug it into the pink connector on the front of your tower. Cheers, Joe
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nobusCommented:
you may need to increase its input level !
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nickg5Author Commented:
The recorder only recorded for 30 seconds and then it cut off.
The sound can be heard twice. Once at around 10 seconds and once again around 20 second. It would have been heard again at 30-31 seconds but the audio recorder would not record more time. There are external sounds the entire 29 seconds but the door was closed and TV and radio off, so external noise was my pc running, maybe noise from the street.


It was saved as a WMA file and EE won't let me upload that type file.

message from EE:
"The extension of the uploaded file is not in the list of accepted extensions"
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Joe Winograd, EE Fellow 2017, MVE 2016, MVE 2015DeveloperCommented:
Change the file type to TXT. We'll change it back to WMA when we download it. What do you want us to do after we listen to it?
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nickg5Author Commented:
jTry to identify what the sounds is from.

I'm only being given one type of file to save as: WMA
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Joe Winograd, EE Fellow 2017, MVE 2016, MVE 2015DeveloperCommented:
Save it as a WMA. Then use Windows Explorer to rename it to TXT...right-click on the file and select Rename from the menu. It will position you before the WMA but just hit the End key and it will take you past the WMA...then hit backspace 3 times and type in TXT. It will give you this warning:
Rename warningClick the Yes button.
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nickg5Author Commented:
Oh no, not the dreaded Windows Explorer. I've never understood what it is.

The file is saved to my desktop. I right click on it and I can rename it, but there are no other choices or options. The current name stays blue and I can change the name and nothing more.

I can right click on it and see "properties" and a security tab and a details tab and the general tab and I see nothing in there about file extensions.

On my system I see nothing that resembles what you have posted above.

Vista o/s
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Joe Winograd, EE Fellow 2017, MVE 2016, MVE 2015DeveloperCommented:
If you don't use Windows Explorer, how do you copy, move, delete, and rename files? In any case, think of Windows Explorer as a file manager (it's a good thing to learn about). Look in the Accessories group (same place you found Sound Recorder) and you'll see Windows Explorer. Run it and then navigate to the WMA file and follow my previous instructions.

That said, you can do the same thing from the Desktop. After right-clicking and selecting Rename, hit the End key or right arrow until you get to the end. Then you may backspace to remove the WMA and type in TXT.
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nickg5Author Commented:
start > owner > desktop > documents is opened in Windows Explorer.

This is not working.
That said, you can do the same thing from the Desktop. After right-clicking and selecting Rename, hit the End key or right arrow until you get to the end. Then you may backspace to remove the WMA and type in TXT.
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The only thing that I can do with any file when I right click and rename is to rename the folder or file and nothing else.

It highlights my current name in blue and lets me enter a new name, nothing more.

I used the end key, the backspace key and all it does it takes me to the beginning of the name field so I can begin to type the new name.
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Joe Winograd, EE Fellow 2017, MVE 2016, MVE 2015DeveloperCommented:
> It highlights my current name in blue and lets me enter a new name, nothing more.

As soon as it highlights the current name in blue, hit the End key or the right arrow key 4 times. That should take you past the "A" in "WMA". If it doesn't, let me know.
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nickg5Author Commented:
WMA is not seen in a box. to be able to backspace. The only box is the box that contains the "name"

I got this and TXT is not a format they support for converting audio to ......

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nickg5Author Commented:
Look here and you see exactly what I see when I right click on the file on my desktop and click on "rename"
I can remove one or all of those "t's" and rename it.
right arrow goes to the right and does nothing but leave all the t's there.
back space goes to the left, end does too, and goes to the left side of the name box and lets me type in a new name and replace those t's.

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Joe Winograd, EE Fellow 2017, MVE 2016, MVE 2015DeveloperCommented:
Ah, ok, got it. Go into Control Panel and run Folder Options. Then click the View tab. You will see a checkbox that says "Hide extensions for known file types". It is almost surely checked. Uncheck it! Now the WMA (and all file extensions) will appear.
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nickg5Author Commented:
This is a 1 minute recording and you can hear the "sound" about every 10 seconds beyond the other external sounds. It only happened once and has never happened before.

I have heard ham radio in my pc speakers or CB radios but my system has always been turned off at the time, though the tower still feeds power to the speakers.

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nickg5Author Commented:
Adding points and hope someone can identify that sound.
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Joe Winograd, EE Fellow 2017, MVE 2016, MVE 2015DeveloperCommented:
This is a pure guess. Sounds to me like a fan going bad, perhaps a fan that kicks in only when the system gets hot.
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nickg5Author Commented:
I've used this system in the same environment for over 3 years. Only heard this sound on the 10th of May. It's rather cool around my desk. On my last tower, I could hear an extra fan kick in and hear it. This sound on that recording is totally a new one, never heard it before on any pc at any time in the past. The temperature around my desk has been in the 70's in recent days. On another question long ago we talked about how often motherboards and hardrives go bad and why. One guy said temperatures as low as 20 degrees or as high as 100 would not kill a system whatsover. There may be people who dismiss that as wrong.
I lost 4-5 motherboard and hard drives over a period of say 10-12 years.

Oh well, I'll hold this thread open for a couple days and see if anyone has other ideas. You may be right but I have never heard such a sound before, around a pc or totally away from a pc. I'll have to go back and convert the file back to wma and listen myself.

Thanks.
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Joe Winograd, EE Fellow 2017, MVE 2016, MVE 2015DeveloperCommented:
You're welcome...glad we got the file type situation cleared up.

Even when it's cool around your desk, the temperature inside the machine is hot. Anyway, as I said, it's just a guess, but the reason for this guess is that I had a Dell laptop that made a very similar sound and it turned out to be a bad fan...I replaced the fan and the sound stopped...and never came back.

Let's see if some other folks have opinions on what the sound might be. Regards, Joe
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JohnnyCanuckCommented:
Have you checked the cd/dvd drive to see if there is a disk inside?  Other than that is does sound like a fan to me.  Open the side of the computer and see if you can pinpoint the source of the sound.
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nickg5Author Commented:
It was a one day wonder for maybe 10 minutes.
CD drive is empty.
I would like for it to happen again, and I can pull the side off.

The sound came out of speakers not from inside the tower.
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I've turned the lights and pc off for the night and heard voices later. There was CB radio chatter on my speakers, low volume, barely enough to hear, so there are frequencies that can get on pc speakers. That is a rare event, maybe 2 times this year and never heard before.
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nobusCommented:
it looks like you've got transmitters in the neighbourhood; and your system picks it up
you're sure there's no cell phone near your system ?
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nickg5Author Commented:
I have my cell phone beside my keyboard. But it's been that way for the 3+ years before this sound was ever heard. I'm going to burn the 1 minute audio to a disc and take it to a computer shop for the fun of it and let the guys listen.

so far we have fan or transmitters related to cell phone as possibilities.

I'm going to close the question since getting the audio uploaded here was the action that had a definitive answer. What the noise is remains a mystery.
When I let the 3-4 computer shop guys listen to it and since they have many systems that are running 24 hours a day for diagnostics, etc. I'll post what their opinions are.
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nickg5Author Commented:
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Joe Winograd, EE Fellow 2017, MVE 2016, MVE 2015DeveloperCommented:
Nick,
Thanks for the comments. I'm looking forward to hearing what the computer shop geeks say about the noise. Regards, Joe
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nobusCommented:
i still suppose the cellphone is the cause
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nickg5Author Commented:
On cell phone why would it do it for only 10 minutes on one day over 3+ years.
I'm not sure where the Verizon towers, etc. are located.

My pc has fans and I can hear them when they kick in, or the 2nd fan comes on, etc.
This noise came out of my speakers and the sounds were very close to be being every 10 seconds and not random or intermittent. Constant every 10 seconds.
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nobusCommented:
because many things change - without you knowing it, or without notification.
frequencies, distance and orientation of cell phones, new aereals for it
maybe the wiring of the house changed, or your  grounding is degrading
there can be many reasons - and we'll never know why, unless investigating and measuring with proper equipment and knowledge
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nickg5Author Commented:
Two technicians listened. Once they heard it the first time, they looked at each other. Then after hearing it three times, one guy said "unknown interference."
I told them the consensus was computer fans or cell photo transmitters. So, they had the option of agreeing with one of those. So, we'll never know. My cell phone has been 6 inches from my keyboard for years and that specific sound has never been heard before and this tower is maybe 5 years old.
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Joe Winograd, EE Fellow 2017, MVE 2016, MVE 2015DeveloperCommented:
Thanks for the follow-up posting. Chalk this one up as a mystery!
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nobusCommented:
so my post was the complete answer !
"it looks like you've got transmitters in the neighbourhood; and your system picks it up
you're sure there's no cell phone near your system ?"
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nickg5Author Commented:
"you're sure there's no cell phone near your system ?"

......my cell phone has been beside my keyboard 12 hours a day for many years.
The sound was never heard before May 10th nor after that.
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nobusCommented:
as i told you nick -  you may leave it for as long as you want - without any problem
it only needs a tiny little change - can be the cell phone position; un update in the PC, or anything in the environment - and you have interference ...
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nickg5Author Commented:
That sounds like what it may be. It was interesting that the sounds were very close to being exactly 10 seconds apart.
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nobusCommented:
i described above how the interference can happen
as to what the sound is -that depends on the interference, AND the sound source
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nickg5Author Commented:
joewinograd or nobus, can you go to my new question about a sound on my TV.
I recorded the sound and uploaded the file to the EE question. The first responder says they can not open the file or even click on it.

Can you go there and look at the file and see if it was formatted properly and can you hear the sound?
Thanks.
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Joe Winograd, EE Fellow 2017, MVE 2016, MVE 2015DeveloperCommented:
Hi Nick,
I'll be happy to do that right now. Regards, Joe
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nobusCommented:
it is easy for us if you post the link here
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nickg5Author Commented:
joewinograd:

I need to get that wma file back on my system. I saved it to my desktop from the EE question and changed the name from .txt back to .wma but WMP won't open the file.

Any ideas?

Here is the new question
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Hardware/Misc/Q_28302706.html
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Joe Winograd, EE Fellow 2017, MVE 2016, MVE 2015DeveloperCommented:
Nick,
I'll check out the new question now. Regards, Joe
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