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Have you started using Lianja ?

Hi Experts!

Have you started using Lianja ?

If so, what are your impressions?

It looks very interesting, since it runs in Apache.
Do you know if something special must be done by the server provider to run it remotelly?

Thanks in advance.
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No, and most likely I never will.

Me and my company, we continue development in VFP for our customer, while we more and more prepare for module by module migration into C#. We have started using C# for new things. And it's good, you can adapt to the editor very fast and it has a lot more than basic intellisense.

I used to use PHP even before I came to VFP and also have returned to it (plus MySQL of course). It's history in regard of OOP compares a bit to VFP, as it started as a simple procedural language and got OOP more and more. I begin to think of a project "PHP for VFP developers". It's a different world, to do web applications, but if you accept that, you can transfer a lot of basic concepts, eg the mixture of OOP and procedural programming, while not ideal, is possible, so it's less of a headache.

How far are you from your retirement? If that's still quite some time, it's perhaps better to move to something which already exists and has a strong user base and is continually developed, instead of waiting for a successor.

There of course is another perspective, that is, you can migrate to a successor of VFP more easily, and I still also observe several developments, but even personally I can't wait for that forever. Meanwhile I continue to use VFP for private stuff, as I'm far better and faster in it and never come near limitations for private data. Stuff that goes beyond terabyte is media, but that's not stored in DBFs (nor FPTs). I don't think any clone is helping me with that stuff. VFPX is active and so you also can do more and more stuff still with the old VFP9 from 2006.

Bye, Olaf.
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Hello, Olaf!

Yes, one thing What attracted me in PHP is just the similarity with VFP (Procedural/ OOP approach).

After read your and Pavel position, I think that invest in an uncertain future VFP like plataform by now is an useless risk.

We can wait to see where this chalenge go (maybe if Microsoft opens their VFP code after 2015 f.e. and someone open a foundation to gather 'everyone' interested in a public effort starting from it,  it can got success in future. It looks that Lianja is based in Recital real code, a x-Base dialect and that looks incomplete when compared with VFP, I don't know it)

By now since I need for productivity I'm investing in KoolPHPSuite and start to research to use CodeIgniter.

Thanks for your always opportune seem!