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Hi everybody,

i have a 2008R2 hyper-v CSV cluster with 3 hosts and a HP MSA P2000 iSCSI array.

I have about 20 production VMs on this array.

I want to secure this infrastructure, and more particularly the array. i have installed the Altaro software that backups all my VMs every 2 days on a RAiD 0 array that I have installed on one of my hosts. Each VM backups its data to another Datacenter with the MOZY online backup, each night.

My idea is that in case of crash of the P2000 array, I will start from the last Altaro's backup and restore the last data from MOZY, but it will be long...

I don't think it is the best solution.

Would you have another one ?

Nico
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I have an awesome solution.  I work as a consultant for an MSP (managed IT service provider) and the product we use is called Replay.  It is made by a company called AppAssure.  Dell just recently purchased them so that tells you how good they are doing.  Anyway this software deduplicates, compresses, and encrypts your backups all on its own.  It also takes snapshots/backups every single hour, or whatever interval you set.  On top of that it replicates to other backup servers like it.  So, for instance at each client we have a backup server and then our main backup server at our datacenter.  Each client backup server replicates (super easy to setup within the software) back to our main server in our datacenter so they have their copies and our offsite copies.  Also, this software allows you to do what we call a Live Standby.  What this means is that it constantly exports the last snapshot of each server as a VM to the Hyper-V host of your choosing so that you always have a hot spare waiting and ready.

Please do yourself a HUGE favor and check this out:  http://www.appassure.com/
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That's how we have done it for clients, (many), when there P2000 arrays have failed, it's taken us approx 12 hours to configuire new P2000, and complete the restore of all VMs, and back in business.
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by:Admicom
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I have sent them an email. Is it expansive ?

3 hosts, many VMs...
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If you are referring to AppAssure, it's more expensive than Altaro.
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I've read that the support was very very bad. You confirm ?
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I would state support is similar with all third party software vendors, not had issues with any of these vendors!

AppAssure
http://www.appassure.com/ - Number 1 Backup and VMs and Cloud

Unitrends
http://www.unitrends.com/ - a good vRecovery Backup Appliance.

Symantec Backup Exec V-Ray Edition
http://www.symantec.com/backup-exec-vray-edition - Unmatched backup and recovery designed for virtual and physical environments

VM Explorer
http://www.trilead.com/ - Simply, cost effective and it works.

Acronis Backup & Recovery® 11 Virtual Edition
http://www.acronis.com/virtualization/ - simple but effective

StorageCraft ShadowProtect Server
http://www.storagecraft.com/  - amazing but can be expensive


NAKIVO Backup & Replication for VMware
http://www.nakivo.com/ - current testing proves very postiive

vBackup - in Beta
http://www.thinware.net/Products/vBackup/tabid/202/Default.aspx
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I have sent them an email. Is it expansive ?

3 hosts, many VMs...

Expensive is relative, so it depends on what you think expensive is.  I'll say from my end we have a lot of smaller (10-15 computers) clients who manage to afford it for 1-3 servers just like your setup and have no complaints about price.

The support has been questionable, but they are improving all the time.  That is probably the only area where I'd say that need lots of improvement still, but it's backed by Dell so it's bound to get better.
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Hello,

I have downloaded a trial version and installed the console on the 1st host, and one agent on the same machine to test.

No problem for installing.

I setup a cluster protection with only one host, but it sees uniquely the C: drive of the host with 44 GB used. It does not see the different VM of this host (they are stored on a P2000 array).

How can I do ?
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When you back up the second, third, fourth, etc., machines it will see data across them all that is common and deduplicate it.  I hope that's what you were asking.

If that's not what you were asking, then you should know that you'll need a VM to act as the console/core that does the actual backing up.  Then you'll install agents on other VMs and back them up to that VM that is acting as the core/console.  The next thing you would want to do is have an offsite core that you replicate the first core to.

If that's still unclear let me know, thanks.
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