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Sonic Wall protection has expired.  Renew or Replace?

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I have a Sonic Wall TZ 180 Standard that the current subscription has expired.  I can renew ($1100)  and keep this device for another year then it will have to be replaced.  Or I can replace the device now with the newer TZ 215 ($2150 then $600 for the next two years) which in the long run is cheaper than the TZ 180.

We have two VPN users, 7 workstations and one server.  Sonic Wall seems to be very expensive.  I understand the vast services that the device provides but I'm curious about other options.  The server provides only file/print, data sharing and authentication to the local domain.  All email is hosted externally.  Thanks in advance.
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It really depends on how secure you need your local files to be.  By the prices you have posted much of your initial $2,150 must be the install and configuration.  The TZ 215 is listed on Dell's website at a price of $845 +$145 (Wireless) +$215 (SSLVPN).   The $620 (probably for the Comprehensive Gateway security bundle) for two years service is in the low standard range.  I pay a bit more for my watchguard and when I checked on the price of Meraki (Cisco now) products they were 50% more.  They do a lot more also.

Your yearly service is really paying for constant updates to possible threats.

Now if you want to go without a firewall you really need to consider if there is any confidential information on your internal file structure.  SSN's, credit card info... etc.

What tasks are the VPN users doing on the internal network?  Are they just accessing files?  Set them up with a Syncplicity account (owned by EMC). It has secure file sharing with the capability for the administrator to manage access.

The biggest question I think I have is how much would it impact your business if it was found your internal network was not being protected by a business level firewall device?  Some businesses really do not need the level of protection offered by an enterprise level firewall.  Others have personal customer data which if found to be breached would dramatically impact the customers trust in their organization.
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No personal customer information.  VPN users are accessing local network for file/print sharing.  The $2150 is for three years service on the firewall and one year service workstation virus protection.

It would affect the business seriously if the internal network was compromised.  That being said must we have a firewall that requires a subscription and if so can't this be attained for less?
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All corporate firewalls require a subscription and the price for the Dell Sonicwall is not out of line with the competition.

Here is the link to Dell's Sonicwall site.  Your price is directly affected by the number of services you are buying.

http://www.sonicwall.com/us/en/products/TZ_215.html#tab=customize

I use a couple Watchguard products and you could probably get by with a Watchguard XTM22 which gives you 5 sslvpn licenses by default.  Find a rep in your area and get a quote.  They will be happy to talk to you and see if they can do it cheaper.  

Check with a couple services companies as to products they have available and you will at least be able to tell people that you checked around at the prices when they ask why it costs so much.
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I suggest you consider the Secure Upgrade Plus program, which basically allows you to trade in your TZ180 against the TZ215.

The MSRP for a Secure Upgrade Plus with 3 years CGSS is $1,350, and can typically be had for 20% less.

The TZ215 is substantially faster than the TZ180. It includes 2 SSVPN and 2 GVPN (client) licenses.

One year of Enforced Client Anti Virus and Anti Spyware for 10 users has an MSRP of $325.

So it looks like your total MSRP would be $1,675, and a possible purchase of 20% off.

This looks like the way to go!
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The above prices are much cheaper than what was quoted to me by sonic wall directly. Where can I find these price breaks?
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As wierd as it seems you can actually get better prices from technical service companies than you can get directly from the company themselves.  They do this so they have companies out there supporting their products and willing to sell them.
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Sticking with Sonic Wall.  Sonicguard.com was much cheaper.  Thanks.
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