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Hi friends,

I am new with Windows 2012, and I really apreciate some help.

Cenario:
VMWARE server (ISP server): Windows 2008 Server with AD
Physical host: Windows 2008 + SQL 2005
Physical host: Windows 2008 TMG
VMWARE server (ISP server): Windows 2003 Terminal Server
Windows 2003 IIS Application server

I need to update my datacenter servers, and it is time to choice the way.
First question: ESX or VMM2012 ?
Second question: If I get VMM2012 way... Cloud or Cluster?
Does VMM2012 private cloud requires a storage? Or can I buy two monster servers identicals, and create a private cloud?

I am considering to use Windows 2012 Datacenter version, because I am thinking in future that we will have more than 05 virtualized servers.

Third question: TMG is no more. What do I get?

Final question: I need to study Windows 2012. Anyone could give me a study line ? ebook? i-class?

Thanks alot!
Denílson.
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For Windows 2012, you need at least v5.0u1 or v5.1 to support Windows 2012 VMs.
For SCVMM you can use a Hyper-V setup and either use massive local storage or use iSCSI for shared storage and can use clustering for some fault tolerance.

As for TMG, you can use one of the other alternatives:
DirectAccess in Windows 2012 for VPN type access.
Use Forefront Unified Access Gateway (UAG).
Use a Linux box with firewall capabilities e.g. Smoothwall.org
An Firewall appliance from HP, Cisco etc.
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Which one is better? ESX or SCVMM?

Is it necessary clustering to provide fault tolerance?
Does not Private cloud do this?

Or the concept Private cloud is just about to manage my resources?

When I read the presentations about Win2012 SCVMM, many says that it will manage my VMs and I wont need to think WHERE it is. By this reason, I am understanding that in fault situations, the SCVMM wont stop. Am I mistaking?
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I personally thing VMWare ESX is better because its more mature and it is more intuitive powerful than SCVMM.
SCVMM I still find to be clunky and and it is not helpful when then things go wrong.


Private cloud, I think, means that you buy and manage your own resources. So that means your own host servers, your own SAN/disk arrays, VMS, networking everything.

SCVMM is a management software for Hyper-V servers and VMs. Hyper-V is not dependant on SCVMM running, but SCVMM is dependant on Hyper-V. If you shut down SCVMM, your Hyper-V servers will still run and you can manage them to a limited degree with Hyper-V manager tools.
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