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Is there a way to slipstream AHCI drivers into a Win XP CD on Ivy Bridge?

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I have a Samsung Series 9 laptop (NP900X4C), and need to load win XP onto it. I know that I can disable the AHCI mode and install it that way, but I want AHCI enabled in XP. With older chipsets, there were text-mode drivers for AHCI that I could slipstream, but I don't see anything for Ivy Bridge chipsets, so the XP installation never sees the hard drive if AHCI is enabled.

So, is there any way to get the proper drivers to be slipstreamed in the XP installation?
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Yes use nliteos to create a new disk
http://www.nliteos.com/
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@ve3ofa -- you didn't respond to my question at all. I didn;t ask how to slipstream the drivers. I asked where to get the proper drivers for Ivy Bridge.

@Tonypeswani -- most of the instructions don't say anything about drivers for AHCI on Ivy Bridge (Intel Series 7), and generally just give you a general procedure on slipstreaming the drivers, but there is nothing about Ivy Bridge drivers. There is one link that points to Sandy Bridge drivers, and I'll try to see if that works.
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None of those are drivers for Ivy Bridge -- that's the whole point of my question, Intel doesn't provide any text mode drivers for XP (which is what you need for the installation).
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The issue is that newer hardware isn't really compatible anymore with XP, and that is totally understandable, as that OS will be buried in less than an year's time.

In my point of view there is absolutely no reason to install an about to be buried OS on such new hardware, that's a waste of resources, good hardware and time. Instead move up to Windows 7 and use Windows XP mode if you still have some ancient application that requires XP to run, and get that application replaced by something more modern asap. I think there has been plenty of time to prepare such a move. M$ has published XP's death date a couple of years back, and even increased the deadline a couple of times, but now it is definitive.

If you really still do need XP running directly on hardware, get some 2nd hand PC on which it runs natively, or don't use AHCI mode.
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There are several extremely good reason why I need to get this done, and debating my merits with you is a waste of my time.

(Edit: Off-topic remarks removed - Modulus_Twelve)
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Are these the drivers you are after: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?cc=us&prodSeriesId=5260575&prodNameId=5260578&taskId=135&swItem=wk-106286-1

It specifically says Ivy Bridge, since it is a chipset driver it should work with just about any Ivy Bridge chipset and not just HP models.

If you are just doing one install I would stick the laptop into legacy mode, install XP and then install the AHCI drivers in XP, reboot, enter the BIOS and change the system back to AHCI.

There is a post here on how to do it with the Intel Matrix drivers, should be pretty similar for other sets of drivers: http://superuser.com/questions/427340/how-to-enable-ahci-in-windows-xp-without-reinstalling
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No, those are the wrong drivers - they are just regular drivers for xp, not the ones you can use during setup.
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listing of driver files
Those are exactly what you want to slipstream (or put onto a floppy for an f6 driver install)
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So, I found a bit of a workaround. There don't seem to be any text mode drivers for XP available for any chipset later thatn ICH10. However, there is a way to install the AHCI drivers from within XP after it's already been installed. It's a modified method from here, which was referenced in a link from Tonypeswani. But here's what has to be done:

Download the following zip file, and extract the files somewhere on your PC: http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/429818/XP-AHCI-zip.html

1. install XP with AHCI disabled

2. once you can boot into XP, install the intel chipset utility driver (from Intel's website)

3. reboot, and run the attached registry script (which inserts the AHCI iaStore.sys driver for all Intel chipsets up to Ivy Bridge)

4. run the batch file to copy iaStore.sys into c:\windows\system32

5. restart the computer, and enable AHCI mode in BIOS.

6. Bootback into XP, and you'll see it redetecting the AHCI controller and the hard drive(s) attached to it.
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@ve3ofa -- I'm not sure where you got that screenshot from, but there are no textmode drivers provided by Intel for any chipset above ICH10. So, unless you have some that were manually modified by someone to work on Ivy Bridge, they won't work
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I've requested that this question be closed as follows:

Accepted answer: 0 points for btdownloads7's comment #a39279078
Assisted answer: 100 points for Tonypeswani's comment #a39277061

for the following reason:

Tonypeswani posted a generic link that had multiple possible solutions, none of which really applied. But that page linked to another one that had a template for adding drivers AHCI into an existing XP installation, and that allowed me to create a modified registry script that supports Ivy Bridge. So, I want to award some point to Tonypeswani for pointing me in the right direction. Otherwise, the solution that I posted is the correct answer for anyone who needs to do this in the future
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Those were directly from the first link that I posted.
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=21408&lang=eng&OSVersion=&DownloadType

from the readme
AHCI Controllers:
    - Intel(R) Desktop/Workstation/Server Express Chipset SATA AHCI Controller
    - Intel(R) Mobile Express Chipset SATA AHCI Controller
    - Intel(R) 5 Series/3400 Series SATA AHCI Controller
    - Intel(R) 5 Series 4 Port SATA AHCI Controller
    - Intel(R) 5 Series 6 Port SATA AHCI Controller

    - Intel(R) ICH10D/DO SATA AHCI Controller
    - Intel(R) ICH10R SATA AHCI Controller
    - Intel(R) EP80579 SATA AHCI Controller
    - Intel(R) ICH9M-E/M SATA AHCI Controller
    - Intel(R) ICH9R/DO/DH SATA AHCI Controller
    - Intel(R) ICH7M/MDH SATA AHCI Controller
    - Intel(R) ICH7R/DH SATA AHCI Controller
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even the http://drivers.softpedia.com/progDownload/Intel-Rapid-Storage-Technology-Preinstall-Driver-11001032-x86-Download-150443.html is the same file as what I originally had in my first link

which is older than the one on the intel site that I first indicatedFrom the first link that I posted
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The file on its own is useless. You can't use it during XP install (meaning that AHCI mode can't be enabled during installation), nor can you use it after XP is installed. So your post is completely useless, and therefore deserves no points.

You have to use the registry script to manually insert the registry entries for critical devices, and then manually copy the iaStor.sys driver into windows\system32. Withough the registry script, none of it is possible.
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I've requested that this question be closed as follows:

Accepted answer: 0 points for btdownloads7's comment #a39279078
Assisted answer: 100 points for Tonypeswani's comment #a39277061

for the following reason:

Tonypeswani posted a generic link that had multiple possible solutions, none of which really applied. But that page linked to another one that had a template for adding drivers AHCI into an existing XP installation, and that allowed me to create a modified registry script that supports Ivy Bridge. So, I want to award some point to Tonypeswani for pointing me in the right direction. Otherwise, the solution that I posted is the correct answer for anyone who needs to do this in the future
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@ve3ofa - you keep posting Windows drivers, which are useless, and they don't cover Ivy Bridge I top of that. The original question asked for AHCI drivers to be slipstreamed into  an XP install CD that support Ivy Bridge. You haven't provided a single useful resource I that respect. Normal Windows drivers are useless, unless the OS can be installed with AHCI enabled. There is (or was) no way to enable AHCI afterwards because the stem would crash on startup without proper drivers. And since no text mode driver could be found for AHCI on Ivy Bridge, the solution was to "hack" that driver into the OS after it was installed with AHCI being disabled
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You actually have tried using the floppy boot drivers that suggested using the f6 load driver routine and it didn't work?

Note: these are the drivers indicated by your computer's manufacturer

Intel Note:
The new Intel® 7-series Chipset family is now available and shipping in mobile and desktop OEM systems and motherboards worldwide. These new chipsets provide the companion logic to the 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ processors today and will support the 3rd Generation Intel Core processor family (codenamed Ivy Bridge) later in Q2.  They also integrate USB 3.0 and enable responsiveness technologies like Intel® Smart Response, Intel® Smart Connect, and Intel® Rapid Start in desktop and mobile platforms. Intel is also introducing several desktop motherboards that feature the new Intel 7-series Express Chipset.

hmm I see text mode drivers here
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by:btdownloads7
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Yes, I tried those drivers before I posted here. The question is -- have you tried anything that you posted, or did you just do a Google search and post the most likely result? Just look at the screenshot -- the latest textmode driver is for ICH10. THey don't work and either Sandy Bridge or Ivy bridge chipsets. So, as I've posted several times before, your solution is a complete waste of time. And the fact that you keep bringing it back and trying to request credit for it is ridiculous.
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The reason why I keep objecting is those are the drivers that the manufacturer of the your computer recommend. And it is not the 10D driver but the system7 driver that is used by Intel in their system 7 motherboards. So I am curious as to why the manufacturer is recommending a different set of drivers than what you really need on your computer. Also the release date of the Samsung Series 9 laptop (NP900X4C) was prior to the release date of ivy bridge processors.


According to the specs that I received our computer has the hm75 express chipset  If in fact you do have ach11 (which was released in the 79 series motherboards then yes there have been no text mode drivers released
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You obviously don't understand how Windows XP drivers work for IDE/SATA controllers, and that's why you keep pushing a pointless and completely irrelevant "solution". I did not ask for AHCI drivers for Windows XP. It would be pintless to ask for them. As I explained to you, the drivers have to be textmode (which are different from the PNP drivers that the manufacturer provides, if they provide them). If AHCI isn't enabled during XP setup, it can't be enabled afterwards. The correct drivers have to be provided at the time of setup (by either pressing the F6 key during setup or slipstreaming them into the installation CD). Those drivers are called textmode drivers. There are no textmode drivers provided by intel for the last couple of chipsets. They only provide the Windows PNP drivers, which can't be used during setup.

And at this point, I'm done arguing with you. You have provided absolutely no valid information, and have shown an obvious lack of knowledge when it comes to this specific issue. So, I'm just wating for a moderator to close this question.
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