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MEtro Mail app in Windows 8 with no SSL

Posted on 2013-07-01
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I am trying to setup a MS Surface with Windows 8 pro on it, to sync with our Exchange 2003 mobile mail. the issue seems to be that there is no way to disable the SSL in metro mail app before the account is setup. Any way around this?
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by:Cliff Galiher
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If you choose to use IMAP, yes. If you choose to use exchange activesync, no.

Be aware that if you disable SSL with IMAP, your passwords are being transmitted in clear text and of course, the default network connections of portable devices like the surface pro is wireless.

For the cost of an SSL cert, I cannot ever see why you would want to do this. It just snt worth the compromised security.
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by:raffie613
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what is the cost of an SSL cert, where do I get it and how do I implement it on my 2003 exchange server?
Thanks.
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by:Cliff Galiher
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There are many many SSL providers. I've seen them for less that $10/year if you catch a sale. Use your favorite searche engine.

As far as how to install it, SBS has a wizard. Look in the SBS admin tool. One of the tasks is creating and installing a certificate.
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by:raffie613
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I don't have SBS. this is a regular 2003 R2 server.
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by:Cliff Galiher
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Ahh. Sorry, thought I read SBS somewhere in there. Oh well, not to worry. The exchange admin console still is pretty straightforward. And TechNet has thorough documentation.

Their "setting up client access" section has the first few steps dedicated to properly setting up SSL.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa995729(v=EXCHG.65).aspx

-Cliff
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by:raffie613
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ok, and how do I setup metro mail to be configured with IMAP since that is easier?
what is the imap and smtp addresses?
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by:Cliff Galiher
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You have to enable IMAP on Exchange 2003, configure it to not use SSL, set up public DNS to point to a public IP address, route that public IP address to the Exchange Server hosting IMAP.

Similarly, you must set up Exchange 2003 to accept external SMTP mail for relaying (making sure you don't create an *open* relay), set up public DNS to point to a public IP address, route that address to the Exchange Server hosting SMTP.

Yes, SMTP and IMAP can be a single Exchange server, but doesn't *have* to be either. So those are two different steps, that may or may not be able to be combined, depending on your internal topology.

So, to answer your question, the imap and smtp address is the host names you chose when setting up the public DNS settings in the above steps.

.....and for the question you haven't asked, but to preempt it in case you do....

If you need more details in installing and properly configuring IMAP and SMTP relaying on Exchange then we are back to the above, where buying a $10/year SSL cert is both easier *and* cheaper considering the labor involved.
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by:raffie613
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ok makes alot of sense to go the SSL way if you really think adding it and setting it up in Exchange is easy.
Is this all that I need to do once I purchase the certificate?


To obtain a server certificate from a certification authority
Use the Web Server Certificate Wizard to create a certificate request.
In the Web Server Certificate Wizard, on the Delayed or Immediate Request page, click Prepare the request now, but send it later.
Use the Web Server Certificate Wizard to send the request to the certification authority. The CA will process the request and then send you the certificate.
Finish using the Web Server Certificate Wizard.
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Cliff Galiher earned 500 total points
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Generally yes. In most cases, you cannot use the web server certificate wizard to actually send the request to a CA though. Instead, the wizard will generate a CSR as a text file, and most CAs have a web-based site to submit that CSR. Since each CA is slightly different, that is as detailed as I can get.
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by:raffie613
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so do i add the cert using the web server wizard or another way?
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by:Cliff Galiher
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Wizard. Only submitting the CSR will be outside the wizard.
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by:raffie613
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so should be pretty simple then. Will let you know.
thanks.
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by:raffie613
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one more thing, We already have mobile OWA setup. Is it still very different and difficult to just setup the IMAP? I thought perhaps  some of the settings were already in place.
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by:Cliff Galiher
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Dificult? No? Different? Yes.

But I way the same of setting up SSL. It isn't difficult. Just different. One SSL is more secure and supportable long term. So given the choice between to relatively easy processes....
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by:raffie613
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ok just purchased the SSL from go daddy. now how do i  generate the CSR?
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by:Cliff Galiher
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Scroll up. One of my earlier replies has a link to a full walkthrough on the MS technet site.
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by:raffie613
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I didn't see it in there. but i got confused because earlier you said the wizard will generate the CSR, and more recently you said it will not.
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by:Cliff Galiher
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No. That is not what i said, and what i said is consistent. The wizard will generate the CSR. It will not SUBMIT the CSR to the CA. Those are two different steps. You mist submit the CSR it generates yourself.
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by:raffie613
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oh ok, my bad. I understand now.
Thanks.
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by:raffie613
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ok I got it approved and now I downloaded the certificates. When I run the wizard again though, it says to enter the path with the "response" from the CA. I think it wants a text file because it didn't see or recognize the certificates I downloaded.
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by:Cliff Galiher
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If you look at the dialog box, on the right is a dropdown list of file extensions. You can change that to "all files."

Conversely, you can rename the file GoDaddy sent you. The wizard defaults to wanting a .crt file, and godaddy sends a .cer file (they are the exact same contents, just the dot-extension is different.) so the wizard balks. Renaming the file does the trick.
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by:raffie613
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ok great. now they sent me a second certificate for IIS. What should I do with that one?
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by:Cliff Galiher
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Only one will work with the wizard. I don't know why they sent you two. Maybe they sent you the same one twice. I'm not them...
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