Server 2012 hyper-v hypervisor with server 2012 guest

Server 2012 hyper-v hypervisor with server 2012 guest, I have the option enabled for vgpu and it all looks ok apart from the fact it then shows 2 unknown devices in device manager, I am running the 2012 guest in session mode, can anyone tell me if this should just work?
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mfg1Author Commented:
I should have said remotefx won't work, is this something which only runs on windows 8 and not in rds session mode?
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Use Windows 2012 as the Host with Hyper-V Role, and then enable RemoteFX.
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mfg1Author Commented:
Sorry are you saying don't virtualise my rds server?

If so how will I know remotefx is working on 2012?
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Yes, that's correct run it on a phsyical server.
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mfg1Author Commented:
Ok, I have nothing to lose hopefully this will make it all work.
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mfg1Author Commented:
Ok, tried it using a physical server, SLAT CPU directx11 compatible card which is remotefx compatible.

However still dont seem to be getting the remotefx graphics side of things working, as I am no longer using a server 2012 VM I cannot now see how remotefx is enabled?

Can any one help?
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
did you create Windows 7 and Windows 8 VMs ?
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mfg1Author Commented:
no, I want to use server 2012 as a terminal server but have remotefx video options working.

This is what I am concerned is not possible?
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
see here

To off-load graphically intense workloads from the CPU to a physical GPU in Windows Server 2012 the following hardware is required:

Windows 7 Enterprise with SP1 or Windows 8 Enterprise as guest operating system in the virtual machine with the RemoteFX 3D Video Adapter enabled.

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/16652.remotefx-vgpu-setup-and-configuration-guide-for-windows-server-2012.aspx

For Server 2012 RDSH server RemoteFX is enabled automatically.

to fully utilize the new features you should connect with a RDP8 Remote Desktop Connection client, which is included with Windows 8 and Server 2012.  For Windows 7 you need to download/install the DTLS update as well as the RDP8 client, please see this article:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2592687
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mfg1Author Commented:
I have a windows 8 laptop which I use to connect to the server 2012 RDS server, as discussed the graphics card is remotefx compatible, but video playback is still poor, when I check dxdiag I get the following results when in an rdp 8 session and when not in a session the second screen shot.
RDP-Session-Dxdiag.PNG
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mfg1Author Commented:
Not in an RDP session.
Dxdiag.PNG
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smckeown777Commented:
Hi mfg1...unfortunately this won't work...least from my testing over the last month or 2...

To take advantage of RemoteFX you need to be running Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 or Windows 8 Enterprise as GUESTS...so running 2012 as a Guest(RDP Host if you want to call it that) doesn't work...

I've been testing this myself and came to that conclusion after a lot of work...couldn't get it to do what I wanted because apparently you need Win7/8 as a guest no matter what

I followed the guide @Hanccocka posted along with a lot of others

To try this go ahead and build up a Win7/8 Enterprise VM(download trial from Microsoft site if needed) and you'll see the RemoteFX in full glory - I did and all worked as per guides

But hopefully I'm wrong and somebody will come along with the answer ;)
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mfg1Author Commented:
I assume this means I need a vm then per user if I am to run this similar to the way I would the rdsh?
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smckeown777Commented:
Yes...basically you need to setup the RDS like the following post

http://blogs.technet.com/b/askperf/archive/2012/10/31/windows-8-windows-server-2012-pooled-virtual-desktop-infrastructure.aspx

Its called VDI - this then allows one base image to be created on the fly for the number of users you have - so each user has a 'virtual desktop' to themselves...there's a number of different ways to run it but end of the day to get RemoteFX to work this is what is needed I think
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
And you will also need licenses for your VMs.

Can I ask, is this for testing, production, proof of concept, or wide scale VDI rollout?

You stated, video performance, was poor, what are you trying to do?
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mfg1Author Commented:
Really we wanted rdsh to have full remotefx but sadly this isn't an option, I just wanted to  give all the users the best remote experience over the wan, I understand I would have to purchase x amount of Win 8 lic so now need to make my mind up what to do...
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Okay have you considered alternatives with better technology that RemoteFX

Eg XenDesktop XenApp or Horizon View PCoIP?

Whether using RemoreFX, Citrix HDX, ICA, VMware PCoIP, all have challenges watching videos in realtime via a WAN link.

If you have not already read these whitepapers, it's worth a read comparing RDS (Terminal Services) versus VDI, and the VDI comparison whitepaper (you will need to register know to download the VDI Smackdown)


http://www.pqr.com/images/stories/Downloads/whitepapers/vdi%20smackdown.pdf

http://www.wtslabs.com/Downloads/TSAtoZ.pdf
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