Windows 7 System Builder DVDs

Amazon has Windows 7 System Builder DVDs available.  I don't understand the licensing for those DVDs.  Actually I can't find anywhere that directly says what the terms for those products are or how many licenses can be used with them.

Can someone answer those questions?  I need to get/build/make 5 Windows 7 systems for myself and I'm wondering if this is the way to go.
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Dave BaldwinFixer of ProblemsAsked:
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Dave BaldwinFixer of ProblemsAuthor Commented:
The first link doesn't apply, I'm not going to upgrade old machines, I'm looking at building new ones.  The second link about Windows 7 is a bit vague.  The third link about Windows 8 says that 5 licenses are provided with the Ssytem Builder DVD.  Is that true?

Also, it appears from the product listings on Amazon that those DVDs are either 32-bit or 64-bit but not both.  Is that true?  I thought the 'retail' versions were both.
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willcompCommented:
How about a link to the Amazon product so we can see what it says.

I suspect they are simply OEM versions of Windows 7 which can also be referred to as system builder versions.
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footechCommented:
For Windows 7 the System Builder license says that machine it is being installed on must be resold, and that the sys builder (OEM) has to provide support.  Is MS going to find out if you don't?  Highly unlikely IMO.  Yes, it is normal for the System Builder disks to only be for 32 or 64 bit.  This is different than the retail version which includes both.
Windows 8 System Builder license includes the option for either using the Personal Use license (which means you don't have to resell the system) or the normal OEM license like with Win 7.  I haven't read much about the 5 license limit, but my understanding is that you can only use the Personal License 5 times if using the machines for commercial purposes.  This doesn't mean that there are 5 licenses for each disk.
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BiniekCommented:
DaveBaldwin, what do You want to do exactly ? Do You want to create image of the new system and apply it(the same image)  to 5 new computers ?

Please, check the tool which will be helpful - WAIK and it is free
 
Windows Automated Installation Kit for Windows 7
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd349343(v=ws.10).aspx
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Dave BaldwinFixer of ProblemsAuthor Commented:
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
Building 5 pc's you require 5 product keys
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willcompCommented:
As suspected those are simply OEM versions. It would take 5 of them for 5 PCs.
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BiniekCommented:
ve3ofa

You can create image with make and You can enter the appropriate key and activate it after you deployed the image.
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BiniekCommented:
And one more: System builders use OPK and end user can use WAIK.

Here is more information:

The Difference Between Windows Automated Installation Kit (AIK) and OEM Preinstallation Kit (OPK)
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/1013.the-difference-between-windows-automated-installation-kit-aik-and-oem-preinstallation-kit-opk.aspx
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Dave BaldwinFixer of ProblemsAuthor Commented:
I need 3 to 5 new computers with Window 7 Professional and I'm lookng for the most affordable way to do that.  The best price I've seen on a retail version is $299.99.
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willcompCommented:
If you have 5 identical PCs, the simplest solution is to create an image of the first PC and then change the product key on the other 4 PCs. WAIK requires quite a bit of front end work.
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BiniekCommented:
Have You consider to buy windows 8 PRO and use a downgrade right ?

http://www.microsoft.com/OEM/en/licensing/sblicensing/Pages/downgrade_rights.aspx#fbid=JTE-MQMyyCE
http://www.howtogeek.com/133168/how-to-downgrade-windows-8-pro-to-windows-7/

I supposed that is the best solution for You, You will use Windows 7 PRO and when You are ready, You can use Windows 8 PRO
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willcompCommented:
You don't need retail version. The OEM version will suffice and is about $140.00 from most on-line vendors. You can save a few bucks with a 3 pack.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116993
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footechCommented:
Here's my take.  If you want to stay 100% within the terms that MS has given, then your only option is to purchase the retail version.  Otherwise, get the OEM/System Builder version which is cheaper.
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pgm554Commented:
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Gary CaseRetiredCommented:
A "System Builder" license is simply an OEM license -- the terminology is used for individuals/small businesses that aren't buying customized OEM media in bulk (like HP, Dell, etc.).

The terms are simply those of any OEM license -- if you're building the systems, you can use them.    As you correctly noted, OEM media is only shipped in the version you specify -- x32 or x64.    So you have to decide that in advance.      Note:  I have NOT tried this;  but I'm reasonably certain that's only a restriction on the media that you'll receive ... I'm fairly sure you could actually use the key for either a 32 or 64 bit install.
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