# Do I need this phone pipe thats buried in my driveway

The attached pipe looks like some type of phone accessory from AT&T..I assume it is to ground the phone wire ?  The wire goes from the box (see the picture) to the buried pipe (see picture).

I no longer have landline service and thus I was wondering if I could remove this pipe.  The current set-up is a phone wire runs from the pole to the house, but again I have no landline service.
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Do you have cable or DSL internet connection?
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Keep it there. For one thing it doubles as lightning protection, and second, if you or your successor decides to get a landline service in the future, the hardware is ready.
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I see more than one clamp on that ground rod, but where the wire under the other clamp originates is unclear in the picture. If your home's electrical system is not tied to that ground rod, you should hire an electrician to run some #6 bare stranded from it to the main panel.

I would not remove it... having more grounding sources is almost-always better... then there is less difference in potential to ground at any point of the location. Parallel resistances are always less, since they total to the reciprocal of the sum of their reciprocals (e.g., 1/R1 + 1/R2 + 1/R3 ... = 1/Rtotal ) and the less resistance to ground the better... the path to ground should always be the lowest resistance possible.

If you want it to be less of an obstruction, you could dig down around it, pound it in deep enough so its top is below ground level, set a short piece of 4'' plastic schedule 80 around it, backfill around the schedule 80 with packed limestone, add a small piece of pressure treated plywood over it, and finally finish it with some cold patch and sealer (that would be rather small for hot patch, and you'd need to let hot patch cure a while before adding sealer).  That's actually preferable to most electrical inspectors, since it protects the ground system from damage by lawnmowers, et cetera, but having the plastic pipe around the connections leaves them accessible (they're not required to be "readily accessible").
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I have cable service and internet thru Comcast, but the cable is buried underground and on the other side of the house along with the grounding...

I am having my driveway re-paved and want to have this removed as it is buried into the driveway..previous owner years ago I am told took gravel driveway and made into asphalt and never moved the grounding...problem is people trip over this or come close to hitting with car tire..

I will contact electrician to see if it is safe to remove or at minimum remove from driveway and move elsewhere..
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Thanks all...a electrician came out and moved the grounding into my basement and grounded in the same manner as my electrical panel..He then removed the grounding rod..I suppose I was fortuitous that this occurred as the electrician said it was only buried 3 feet not 6...why does this make a difference..
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> electrician said it was only buried 3 feet not 6...why does this make a difference..
You want it as deep into the soil as possible in the hopes of reaching moist earth, for lower resistance...

The copper-plated ground rods I install are 10 feet long.

NFPA part 70 (also known as the National Electric Code) article 250.52 (A) (3) says concrete encased (or "Ufer") ground rods should be made from a continuous 6m (20 feet) piece of 13mm (1/2'') rebar, or 6m (20 feet) of bare copper wire not smaller than 4 AWG.

Article 250.52 (A) (5) specifies that rod and pipe electrodes shall not be less than 2.44m (8 feet) in length.

If a single ground rod (electrode) does not achieve less than 25 ohms resistance to 'earth,' a second grounding electrode must be installed not less than 1.8m (6 feet) away (preferably at least twice as far away as the length of the longest grounding electrode) and connected in parallel - 250.53 (A) (1) through (A) (3).
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