Win 7 - If repair doesnt work and it wont safe mode - what next ?

Also if it wont go to a previous date ... what to do?
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
There is only one practical answer to this question.

Boot with a CD and recover the data, or put the hard drive in a carrier and recover the data.

Then delete all partitions, format and install Windows 7 fresh.

You may have hard drive corruption in which case the data may not be recoverable.

But fresh install is what is called for here.

... Thinkpads_User
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Nick RhodeIT DirectorCommented:
Extract your data and do a wipe and reinstallation of windows.  What is the issue exactly other than it wont boot, what is it doing?

Did you run a harddrive diagnostics test or memory test?
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fcekAuthor Commented:
Is there no way to repiar the op Sys system files ?

Are we giving up this easily people?

:-)
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
The last resort to repair system files without an install is Repair Install. You said you tried that. So then fresh install is the only way at this point.

... Thinkpads_User
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Nick RhodeIT DirectorCommented:
It usually comes down to a point of time management for the most part.  A wipeout and reinstall with all updates and drivers vs all the time taken in an attempt to recover the OS with no success.  If the OS had a program for instance that could not be recovered or absolutley needed to be recovered then the time you want to allocate it necessary.  But if this is a simple end-user system, a wipeout and reinstall would be more of an efficient approach at this point.
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fcekAuthor Commented:
Yes time management.

Agreed

Fighting the  good fight for hours on end and having to recover by bare metal install in the end anyway.
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McKnifeCommented:
For completeness, you should answer the question about the symptoms. Some boot failures can be recovered simply by doing an offline checkdisk or by using regedit offline to disable drivers. Also you have not mentioned whether you tried safe mode, or not. What can also be done offline is system file checker:
sfc /SCANNOW /OFFBOOTDIR=x:\ /OFFWINDIR=x:\windows
Where "x:" is your system drive's drive letter as seen from the recovery environment (your booted setup dvd, for example).
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nobusCommented:
i agree that more info is needed:
>>  If repair doesnt work   <<  does it show your OS ? - any errors or messages?
>>  it wont safe mode   <<    any errors - messages? what happens ?

>>  if it wont go to a previous date   <<  i suppose you tried a system restore from the DVD, and did not find any resore points?

But i n general, i have to agree with Thinkpads user: if the above does not work, = fresh install

there are no practical ways to repair a corrupted system

of course, you can run diagnostics on ram and disk, to be sure about the basics :
Hardware diagnostic CD    UBCD
 i suggest the UBCD  to run some diags first - to be sure about the basics
go to the download page, scroll down to the mirror section, and  click on a mirror to start the download
Download the UBCD and make the cd   <<==on a WORKING PC, and boot the problem PC from it
Here 2 links, one to the general site, and a direct link to the download

since the downloaded file is an ISO file, you need to use an ISO burning tool
if you don't have that software, install cdburnerXP : http://cdburnerxp.se/

If you want also the Ram tested - run memtest86+ at least 1 full pass,  - you should have NO errors!
 
For disk Diagnostics run the disk diag for your disk brand (eg seagate diag for seagate drive)  from the HDD section -  long or advanced diag !  (runs at least for30 minutes)

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/                        ultimate boot cd
http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html             download page
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JohnBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
I am glad you got it working, but Fresh Install is the answer I gave you in the first post here.

... Thinkpads_User
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fcekAuthor Commented:
I particularly like the explanation of  .......

"It usually comes down to a point of > time management < for the most part"

Im going to use this to explain to customers. ...

I can do A ... but B a wipeout is a better result and good time management in this case ...
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nobusCommented:
i agree- the downside is you never learn anything about getting it running again
i just spent 3 weeks to figure out how to solve a small problem - but i found it, while a fresh install would wiipe the problem
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