Need help ripping a CD

I have a CD that of a record that I recorded in the old Music Match software, from an analog tape to digital. It defaulted to .wma format, but I really need .mp3.

The real issue is that when I originally recorded it, I recorded each entire side of the album in a big chunk, and didn't go thru the trouble of separating each song. Is there a way to rip the recording into separate songs? What do I need and how do I do this?

Thanks in advance.
sheana11Asked:
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KimputerCommented:
It's either a music CD (ripping required), or a data CD with .wma files.
If it's a music CD, use Exact Audio Copy to rip it to .wav format, then use Audacity to convert to mp3 (while also splitting up the files if necessary).
If it's a data CD, use Audacity to open the wma files, cut it up as you wish, and save it as mp3
Both programs are free.
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sheana11Author Commented:
I sort of knew that I would have to use AUdacity to accomplish the task, my problem is I don't know what to do once I have the program open.
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sheana11Author Commented:
Is there any way you could be more explicit?
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KimputerCommented:
Yes, Open the audio file, if it's one song, just Export to mp3. If it's a few songs (it's quite obvious in the graph, otherwise just listen to the song), drag a selection, and use Export Selection (to mp3) to save that song. Drag another selection and export again.
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Paul SauvéRetiredCommented:
In Audacity, once a COPY of the original file is open, use Analyze -> Silence Finder and you should see labels inserted at the beginning of each track... Put a title before each song (either the title or Track 1, ...) If you find there are multiple labels before each track, increase the Minimum duration value of the function!

Now, click on File  -> Export Multiple and you have each song separately...
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BillDLCommented:
For info of experts, this is related to question:
http://www.experts-exchange.com/Digital_Living/Digital_Music/Q_28249712.html
Sheana11 was looking for a way to convert this WMA file to MP3 or M4A so that it could be used as the audio for a new Video.

Sheana11

You will be able to kill two birds with one stone here using Audacity, ie. as Paul has suggested:
1. Split the entire audio into separate chunks at points of silence (if there is enough "quietness" between the songs)
2. Encode as MP3 while exporting to separate MP3 files.
There MAY also be the opportunity to try and remove some inevitable "tape hiss" in so doing, but it's a little more involved and personally I think that noise in the original recording often creates an atmosphere, esepecially if the original recording was of a live performance.  Too much messing with an audio file can make it sterile and too "digitised".

There are other options IF there is not enough detectable silence between the songs, for example a crowd or people talking or applauding, tuning up, etc.  What you could do in that event is to:
1. Listen to the content and stop it manually at the end of each song
2. Scroll back over the "wave form" that you see to the start of the song
3. Export SELECTION
4. Repeat.
There are tools in Audacity to create markers that you can go back to.

As I mentioned in your other question, DO NOT work on the original song.  Keep it safe somewhere as you will no doubt have done with the original cassette tape.  Who knows, maybe if the quality created by Musicmatch Jukebox was too low, you may have an opportunity to do this again at a later date and increase the quality.

Experimentation and organisation is the key.  Create a new "project folder", and if converting with different output settings, either save them to a sub-folder with the value of that setting in the name, or else include that in the name of the exported file.  You need to be able to later tell which method is the best and delete all the other experimental exports.

Once Audacity is installed you need to ensure that you have the decoder that will allow you to omport from WMA, and the encoder that allows you to export to MP3.  These are not included because of potential licensing issues, so either:

1. In Audacity use the Edit menu > Preferences > Libraries section, and click the respective buttons
OR
2. Go directly to the page that those buttons should open in your browser:  http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/windows

Follow the links on that Audacity page to download the setup files for:

FFmpeg import/export library

This leads offsite to:  http://lame1.buanzo.com.ar/
Assuming you are using Windows and not Linux or Mac, look down the left for this link:
"FFmpeg_v0.6.2_for_Audacity_on_Windows.exe"
which should download:
http://lame3.buanzo.com.ar/FFmpeg_v0.6.2_for_Audacity_on_Windows.exe

LAME MP3 Audio Encoder for Windows
Now look a bit above that for the link entitled "Lame_v3.99.3_for_Windows.exe", which should download:
http://lame1.buanzo.com.ar/Lame_v3.99.3_for_Windows.exe

Save these files anywhere like your Desktop, CLOSE AUDACITY, and double-click to install them.  They should default to installing in the right place within the correct folder of the Audacity program folder.

When you next start Audacity it should find these codecs, but to make sure that they are found, go back to Audacity's Edit menu > Preferences > Libraries section.  Click the "Locate" button against the Lame and FFmpeg and make sure that they find the files: "lame_enc.dll" and "avformat-52.dll" respectively.  You are now good to go with loading a WMA file and exporting to MP3.

You should not have to change any of the default settings in Audacity.  A recording from a cassette tape is not going to be of great quality, and the default settings are fine as they are.

When you come to Exporting, always click the "Options" button after choosing MP3, but before saving the file.  These should be the defaults that will do for you:
Experiment with different settings
I see from the Audacity home page (http://audacity.sourceforge.net) that there is additional functionality in the latest release that I haven't updated to:

(Windows Vista and later) You can now record computer playback by choosing the new Windows WASAPI host in Device Toolbar , then a "loopback" input.

Although that is an option, it complicates things more than you need.

The online manuals used to only be a few versions behind, but I see that this one is up to date:
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/help/documentation
http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/Main_Page
http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/

You should find sufficient instructions and screeshots to have a go at this, but please ask if you have any problems.
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sheana11Author Commented:
I'll be trying this solution this weekend, 10-05-13, so I'll be able to give you more feedback then. In the meantime, thanks for the incredible help and the effort you put into doing so. The experts here are the greatest, that's why I continue to subscribe year after year. Kudos to you all!
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sheana11Author Commented:
This answer deserves more than 500 points, but that's the most I can award. Thanks for helping me in such detail, and in a way that helped me accomplish my project.
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BillDLCommented:
You're very welcome sheana11.  Glad you got the job done.  When do we get to see the video? ;-)
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