Streaming using Xendesktop 7

Citrix has stopped streaming with xendesktop 7 and instead is promoting Microsoft appv for application virtualization.

Does this mean I need to buy rdscals if I want to use streaming using app v.

Xenapp 6.5 streaming didn't incur rdscals ..only if we publish apps using old xenapp then rdscals came to pic.

Does that mean with xendesktop 7 and appv if we want to stream application then I need to pay app v licenses
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Ayman BakrSenior ConsultantCommented:
RDS CALs include within licenses for App-V. However, this would be for hosted sessions on RD servers/XenApp servers.

For XenDesktop and App-V combination you will require MDOP (Microsoft Desktop Optimization Pack) licenses.

For more information on MDOP go to this address: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/enterprise/products-and-technologies/mdop/default.aspx
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Sukku13Author Commented:
So do u mean for app streaming using xd7 I need MDOP license
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Sukku13Author Commented:
From the link I understand appv  its covered under SOftware assurance license
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Ayman BakrSenior ConsultantCommented:
Yes, for App-V streaming with XD7 you will need MDOP.

And yes again, MDOP is newly covered under Software Assurance program. So if you have SA then you will need to subscribe to MDOP.
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Sukku13Author Commented:
When you mean I need to subscribe ..does that mean I need to pay extra to ms or automatically under my enterprise agreement..sa ..all my pcs get the subscription
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Ayman BakrSenior ConsultantCommented:
Well, that you have to ask Microsoft themselves!!!

They say it is covered under SA, but yet they say you need to subscribe. I don't think it would be a payment for extra money; it might be a kind of declaration that you will be using MDOP. But, really you have to address Microsoft on this.
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Sukku13Author Commented:
Is it true that Internet explorer can't be streamed using app v
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Ayman BakrSenior ConsultantCommented:
Yes you can't steam Internet Explorer using app-v because IE is integrated with the Windows operating system and virtualizing another version of IE might cause conflicts with the OS IE. So it is not supported, as well as it cannot be sequenced. However, you can still sequence the IE add-ons like java, activeX plugins etc... For more info on this check the following:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931986

Although you can't stream IE using application virtualization, app-v, you can still virtualize IE using session virtualization, like terminal services or XenApp (hosted app), or machine virtualization like XenDesktop or MED-V. The following PDF provides you the different solutions you can use for virtualizing IE:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=9242
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Sukku13Author Commented:
what I understood is that if I am using VDI then MED-V wont help.
I have legacy apps which don't work well in IE8 and hence may need to rely on IE 7.My target platform is Xendesktop 7
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Ayman BakrSenior ConsultantCommented:
what I understood is that if I am using VDI then MED-V wont help

That's why I said machine virtualization like XenDesktop or MED-V; I was not implying to use MED-V as you are using XenDesktop.

Hmmmm, why don't you then build Vista or XP VMs for these legacy apps, and have other VMs with Windows 7 for non-legacy apps.
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