Best way to clone Win7 HDD (160 GB) to new SSHD ( 1 TB)

Here's the situation:

I have an old lenovo company laptop that my family had been using for the last couple years.
-we upgraded it to windows 7 (built for XP)
-160 GB HDD (~150 used)

I recently took it out (1-2 months ago) and cleaned it up to be a spare work laptop. I spent a lot of time configuring settings and setting it up for our specific network and business use.
We recently told a client we would give it to him to replace his broken laptop.
So he bought a new SSHD to improve the speed/capacity to replace the old drive with it.
-1 TB
-5400 rpms
Here's more specs if needed.
Seagate 1 TB SSD+HDD

I was going to simply:
1. Back up the original drive
2. Remove both drives
3. Clone the entire drive to the SSHD (using a separate workstation and a dual sata expansion bay) and Acronis
4. Put the new drive in the laptop.
5. Make the minor user changes (profile, domain, rdp icons, etc.)

But then I started reading about the issues when cloning win7 to a SSD, and decided to double check. I don't know much about the hardware behind a ssd besides that it doesn't have the moving parts. Now this is Seagate's "hybrid" HDD+SSD so I don't know how that applies to SSD in terms of cloned win7 OS's from HDDs versus fresh installs. Seeing that I still have ~5 hours before the backup supposedly finishes anyway, I want to know what you guys think about just cloning the drive and sticking it in. Will it work? Complications? Software suggestions? Or if it won't work, what's the quickest way to solve this without just doing a clean install.
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DavidPresidentCommented:
The hybrid drive is not technically a SSD, it acts like a 1TB mechanical disk and presents itself that way to the o/s.  Replace it exactly like you would replace a mechanical drive.  

Personally, I would get a USB->SATA adapter and plug both disks into the system, and boot to a LIVE DVD or LIVE USB stick with linux on it. Then use the partition magic software to clone and resize.    

There are other products such as clonezilla, or you can buy something.  Really, just ignore the SSD aspect and clone with whatever is comfortable for you.
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Joe Winograd, Fellow&MVEDeveloperCommented:
I agree with @dlethe that it acts like a standard HDD. I have three of them...one is the Seagate 750GB hybrid and the other two are the same as yours...the Seagate 1TB hybrid. I previously used Acronis for cloning...it's a good product, but now I prefer Casper, which I've been using for several years to do all of my cloning:
http://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/

I used Casper to clone from a 500GB HDD to the 750GB hybrid and then from the 750GB hybrid to the 1TB hybrid. It now clones every day in the wee hours from the production 1TB hybrid to the backup 1TB hybrid. It works extremely well.

I have used it many, many times to clone from a smaller drive to a larger one...has never failed me. It can even clone from a larger drive to a smaller one, as long as there is enough space on the smaller one to house the used (non-free) space from the larger one.

It is not free software, but it is reasonably priced and worth every penny, imo. I would not be without it. Regards, Joe
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pgm554Commented:
Watch out for the Lenovo stuff,a lot of them have an encrypted restore partition that won't come over correctly in a clone.

Been there ,done that.
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Joe Winograd, Fellow&MVEDeveloperCommented:
One other comment – I had no problems cloning a 500GB HDD (W7Pro/64-bit) to a pure (not hybrid) 512GB SSD (Crucial m4). I did nothing special...just a standard Casper clone...then put the SSD in the laptop and it has been running fine ever since. The only problem was a firmware issue with the drive (described in this article), but that had nothing to do with the cloning operation.

Back to your primary question:
I want to know what you guys think about just cloning the drive and sticking it in. Will it work?
My opinion is YES! Regards, Joe
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DavidPresidentCommented:
WinXP doesn't do the necessary housekeeping for SSDs.   A SSD in XP will have a much shorter life, and performance will degrade over time.   SSDs require an operation called TRIM which does scrubbing of used bits.  This is built in the Win7/win8 device driver.  

So, yes it will work ... but depending on make/model it could really suck in a matter of months.  Upgrade to Win7 if you plan on using a SSD.
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Joe Winograd, Fellow&MVEDeveloperCommented:
From the author:
we upgraded it to windows 7 (built for XP)
issues when cloning win7 to a SSD
cloned win7
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MagicalComputingSolutionsAuthor Commented:
Thanks guys! Well I'll give it a shot once the backup is finished. Sounds good to me though.

I hadn't looked much to the definition of seagates hybrids. Was just sort of was handed it to me to swap out. I assumed it was basically a slightly enhanced hdd just by the look and price.

I upgraded from win7 on a hdd to win8 on a new intel ssd in my own laptop and have many experienced headaches. Given, they are all compatibility issues between win8 vs the rest of my hardware specs of hp's choice (the ssd is great). But none the less, the vast change in what the "common" hardware of a laptop today is vs. just a couple years ago left me a little skeptical with a laptop so old.

I'll post if it runs fines after this backup finishes.
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Joe Winograd, Fellow&MVEDeveloperCommented:
> I assumed it was basically a slightly enhanced hdd just by the look and price.

Yes, basically. The rotating storage portion is like any other HDD. Then it has a solid state portion (NAND flash memory), which is 8GB in the Seagate ST1000LM014 (very likely the 1TB model that you have). The SSD/NAND portion is managed in the drive itself...it buffers data off the rotating platters into the NAND so that, in the cases where the data requested off the drive is in the NAND, it delivers the data to the OS at SSD speeds. Of course, it has only 8GB NAND to handle a terabyte hard drive, so it doesn't always have the data requested in the NAND. Windows doesn't see the NAND per se...it thinks it has a 1TB hard drive...the drive manages the NAND internally. Seagate announced a newer model of the 1TB SSHD with a larger NAND – 32GB. The model is ST1000LX003 and was supposed to be available in July, but I recently wrote to Seagate support about it and here's what they wrote back:
Unfortunately, the ST1000LX003 is still not released. It was originally scheduled for a release in July, however, after some issues were identified, it was pushed back, with no release date currently available while the designers try to fix all issues.
Then about a half-hour later:
I have recieved more clarification on this issue. Due to special system requirements that were discovered during the development, the drive has only been released to certain OEMs, with no plans to ship to standard distributors.
Seems we'll have to live with the 8GB NAND model. Regards, Joe
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pgm554Commented:
WD bought Velobit(SSD caching software),so expect WD to ship one soon.
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Joe Winograd, Fellow&MVEDeveloperCommented:
pgm554,
Very interesting! I've been wondering why WD doesn't have a hybrid to compete with Seagate. Perhaps WD will produce a model with a larger NAND. Thanks for the heads-up. Regards, Joe
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