Most popular paid wordpress theme

What is the most popular paid wordpress theme?  There are too many scattered vendors for it.  No idea where it is best to start?
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4umCommented:
Magazine theme by themify for 39$
http://themify.me/themes/magazine
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Jason C. LevineNo oneCommented:
4um, how do you quantify that?  Do you have any facts to back it up?  If you are going to answer, don't pull stuff out of your ass, your blog, or a Google search.

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Ted, there isn't any way to answer this as no one is forced to release their sales numbers. In very, very general terms you will find that WordPress veterans sometimes prefer to use theme frameworks that allow for rapid development of child themes with some decent core functionality already present via the parent framework.  However, there are lots and lots of frameworks available.  Genesis, Thesis, Elegant, Woo, Catalyst, Headway, iThemes, MySiteMyWay, Pagelines, and YooThemes are all examples of frameworks and all of them have strengths and weaknesses and appeal to different types of users.

For example, I'm a fairly decent developer but not the world's best designer so I prefer to use a framework that has a good selection of child themes available for it but also allows me to rapidly modify things via hooks and filters.  For me, Genesis is the best choice but you need to be fairly proficient with WordPress to make it work up to its potential.  So for beginners, you may want to use something easier like Pagelines.
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frugalmuleAuthor Commented:
Genesis Framework - if Advanced at Wordpress
Pagelines - if not.

Thank you.  What are the best links for themes based on those frameworks?
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frugalmuleAuthor Commented:
How would you compare those to this theme or framework http://weavertheme.com/
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Jason C. LevineNo oneCommented:
You're oversimplifying my answer.  Genesis is one framework that is good for advanced users....there are many others.  Pagelines is good for beginners, there are others that are also good.  There are also a number of free frameworks that may suit your needs too.  I'm not recommending you go with Genesis or Pagelines, merely using them as examples.  

https://managewp.com/wordpress-frameworks

Is a good place to start research.  It's a non-biased examination of a ton of frameworks on the market both free and paid and also attempts to educate people on why a framework is different from a child theme.

To answer your other question about child themes, Genesis has their own:

http://my.studiopress.com/themes/

and you can find others out there as well. Not sure if Pagelines has company-built child themes for it in the same way as Genesis...it's more like Weaver in that it becomes a theme-building platform sans coding and I think it has a user-submitted gallery of pre-rolled stuff.  I will admit that it has been awhile since I've used it.

Weaver is garbage (IMHO). It's fine for beginners who can't or won't learn how to do things properly but because it builds things so far off the standard, you can't easily get a developer to work with it.  You need someone with a fair amount of experience with Weaver-specific weirdness to properly customize it and that runs counter to the whole reason to use WordPress at all: ease of use.
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frugalmuleAuthor Commented:
Jason, thank you! Youve just confirmed the suspicion that I've had for a long time about Weaver.
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frugalmuleAuthor Commented:
Thanks a whole bunch.  I have read every link.

So my decision early on was to try to have a page-by-page customization ability.  I may have gotten myself in a bit of trouble here too because I prevented my developer from doing a multi-site.

I simply wanted one site, with one set of plug-ins, the ability to add multiple navigation bars from multiple locations, and easy to change colors and backgrounds that made the end user experience exactly however I dreamed it could be for a particular page.

Consider tedpenner.com.

Currently it houses wacohelp.com, as well as this url, this url, and this joke functionality we called "the more project" allowing jokes in multiple categories to be easily sent via a web link in an effort to take advantage of adsense.  What an embarrassment that is now that I look at it again.

Nothing I set out to do has been easy and it does NOT look like a professional website.  It's been an uphill battle to be sure and mostly I think, because I tried to offload the development to someone else in the interest of 'saving' time.  What a mistake.

A point of contention currently is that the header is inside the content area.  I thought we fixed it with this url but I guess it didn't get resolved either.

This development is all still more complicated than I want it to be mostly because I would rather not have to make a career out of web development, just in order to have a flexible website. I have other interests that are more important to me.

I guess I am back to free in terms of frameworks than paid ones and thank you for mentioning that you can get a free one that is worthwhile.

Which is still the question for me and I am indeed grateful for all the info you guys have provided.
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frugalmuleAuthor Commented:
I need one set of plugins, the ability to add multiple navigation bars from multiple locations, and easy to change colors and backgrounds that made the end user experience exactly however I dreamed it could be for a particular page, but without the need to be in the web development business.
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frugalmuleAuthor Commented:
Jason,

Thank you for your input.  I hope to hear back from you.
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4umCommented:
Oh..Simple designs are good..
you can test this one.

http://themify.me/themes/elemin
 
example www.labnol.org
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Jason C. LevineNo oneCommented:
Now you are copying/pasting without adding fact or opinion.  This is plagiarism at best and makes for a poor experience.  Going to alert a Moderator.

Ref: http://themify.me/themes/magazine
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Jason C. LevineNo oneCommented:
Ted,

Of the free frameworks, I have limited experience.  Most of that experience is with Hybrid:

http://themehybrid.com/hybrid-core

However, what concerns me is this:

I need one set of plugins, the ability to add multiple navigation bars from multiple locations, and easy to change colors and backgrounds that made the end user experience exactly however I dreamed it could be for a particular page, but without the need to be in the web development business.

This is not wholly realistic given your current abilities.  Anyone with a modicum of creativity will easily envision a page layout that is FAR beyond their ability to build, even with tools and frameworks smoothing the path.  

Under the Appearance menu in WordPress you can set menus and they can appear in the header or in a widgetized area.  But if you want to add them to other locations you WILL need to know how to manipulate code no matter which framework you use.

Changing colors and backgrounds is the domain of CSS and no matter how slick the framework is, you WILL need to learn enough CSS to get by.

Applying changes from one page to the next means you WILL need to learn how to use Page Templates in context with your chosen theme.

These are just facts when it comes to WordPress (any CMS will have the same issues).  Professionally built themes and frameworks minimize the amount you need to know but you never escape the need to know some coding and technique.
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frugalmuleAuthor Commented:
sounds like I need to stick with Weaver just to avoid that kind of time and hassle
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frugalmuleAuthor Commented:
Jason, thank you for all your help!!

I think I am beginning to unravel some things.

I'm ok with any theme if it gives a professional look out-of-the-box.  I love Google Sites because it gives me a professional look right out-of-the-box.  I developed www.wacochessclub.com and it's perfect for us.

Now that I am trying to market testing services with www.marketcoding.com, I know that I am going to need the power that WP provides.

Note the difference though between www.wacochessclub.com (Google Sites) and www.marketcoding.com (Wordpress).  The Chess Club site looks layered and well put together but sacrifices the ability to add flash content or animated gif files.  Every step I make throws it all out of whack which makes Google Sites a more appealing alternative.  I want to spend my time developing products and selling, and don't want to have to redo whatever broke the last time I made a change.

Any additional info you can provide is greatly appreciated.
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Jason C. LevineNo oneCommented:
I know that I am going to need the power that WP provides.

With great power comes great responsibility.  

Generally speaking, you can do a lot more with WordPress than with something like Google Sites or Squarespace or Website Tonight but with the additional power and flexibility comes a responsibility on your part to either learn how certain things work or pay someone who does. A good theme and plugins can take you a long way but eventually you will outstrip the ability of things and you will need to delve into code.
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frugalmuleAuthor Commented:
I have no issues with that.  I want to work with WP IF I can find a theme that conforms to WP standards, is free, and looks professional out-of-the-box.  So far, that has been the challenge.
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Jason C. LevineNo oneCommented:
You get what you pay for, Ted.
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frugalmuleAuthor Commented:
What's the free WP theme with the most users?  Is it twenty-twelve?
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Jason C. LevineNo oneCommented:
No idea. I don't think there's any way to measure it.
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frugalmuleAuthor Commented:
Are there any free ones that you like visually right out of the box?
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Jason C. LevineNo oneCommented:
Yes, but not in the same way I think you are asking.  Both Customizr and Attitude are well-constructed themes:

http://wordpress.org/themes/customizr
http://wordpress.org/themes/attitude

that provide a nice base for further tweaking.  But that tweaking is necessary and requires some HTML/CSS knowledge as well as being able to produce graphics.
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frugalmuleAuthor Commented:
Thank you thank you thank you.
Customizr it is!
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