Microsoft surface

Hello There.

I have a question about the Microsoft Surface pro (Windows 8) and the use of DFS Namespace locations.

Ok my problem is this..
We have a Surface Pro that we were going to use in a business context. this machine is on the domain and looks to work ok in most aspects.. that is until you try save files to the DFS Shares.

Where by if you are using Explorer.exe (My computer, Office or other installed programs) to locate save or load locations. It is able to browse to the DFS root folder and display shortcuts to DFS shares. When Opened in explorer.exe
If you are using windows 8  File explorer (Windows apps) to save to the same location It will open the DFS root folder but is either not able? or Not willing? to show the DFS Shortcuts. File explorer view
If I use a Mapped drive to map the location of a specific DFS Folder shortcut.. I can then find this in file explorer also if I use network location in File explorer and type the full Path to a DFS Shortcut then again it will open fine.

My problem is the end user cannot do the latter as they are un aware of the DFS Shortcut locations IE server name etc, Mapping all our DFS shortcuts to there own Mapped drives is not an option either??

Any suggestions??
If you need further info from me then please just ask. :)

Kind Regards
Chris
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McKnifeCommented:
Could you please describe in detail how to reproduce the error? I have win8, we run a DFS, what do I have to do, in particular, what do you mean by explorer app? I have never seen a native Microsoft file explorer app.
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unipolAuthor Commented:
Hi McKnife,
thanks for getting back to me.

I encountered the issue when using "reader" app on the surface, when going to save click files and select computer... This shows the mapped drive "z:\" which is a map to our DFS root folder. when clicked you get the text There are no files or folders in this view.  

If you access the location from the desktop My computer -> z:\ the DFS root shows all the DFS Shortcuts.

Hope this makes more sense. Ill get a screen shot walk-through of what I mean as well.
:)

Chris
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unipolAuthor Commented:
A pdf open in Reader Appthe save screen from reader and other appsclick files to select save locationfiles computer shows the Z:\ driveResult of opening file store
The following is the same folder when viewed via Desktop -> My Computer -> Z:\ drive
My computerRoot of Z:\
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unipolAuthor Commented:
If I map a drive direct to one of the DFS shares As in 'Access'.
Then its contents will be visible when saving from an app and selecting the new mapped drive. ???
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Ess KayEntrapenuerCommented:
You can share the drive, then navigate to it through the network neighborhood thing
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unipolAuthor Commented:
Sorry Esskayb2d.
Its The DFS Root Namespace that I am having issues with.. By default the DFS namespace is a shared location and is also a drive Mapped on the machine.

I can indeed navigate directly to the sub folders of the DFS root by \\server\namespace\shortcut\ (I can also map these locations) this relies on the end user knowing the full path (or having a mapped drive for each shortcut from the namespace) required for every save from a windows app?? (They won't go for that) as for Displaying the Namespace root folder ??? Who Knows ?? I still cant get this to work so am still banging my head against the same wall as before.
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Ess KayEntrapenuerCommented:
im not fluent in 8, but here are some links i found

DFS connection from a Windows 8 laptop
http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Microsoft_Operating_Systems/Q_28055103.html



7 has similar problems, perhaps theres a hotfix for 8
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/983620






But you can't add a network location unless it's indexed. Easy enough if the shares are small- make them available offline! But if you can't / don't want to make all your DFS shares available offline, here's the official way to, "Add a network folder that isn't indexed to a library":
(From the Windows 8 help file):
Tap or click to open Computer.
Create a folder on your hard drive for your network folders, for example c:\share.
Create another folder within that folder, for example c:\share\music.
Select the subfolder you just created, tap or click the Home tab, tap or click Easy access, choose Include in library, and then select the library to which you want to add the folder.
Delete the folder.
Swipe in from the right edge of the screen, and then tap Search.
(If you're using a mouse, point to the upper-right corner of the screen, move the mouse pointer down, and then click Search.).
Enter cmd in the search box, and then tap or click Apps.
Press and hold or right-click Command Prompt in the search results, and then tap or click Run as administrator.
Enter mklink /d, and then enter the path of the folder you just deleted and the path of the network folder. For example, mklink /d c:\share\music \\server\music. This creates what is called a symbolic link.
http://mg.mkgarrison.com/2012/08/using-dfs-shares-from-metro.html
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McKnifeCommented:
Hi.

I was able to reproduce it. Correct, this behavior is a bug.
What DOES work: Saving to a mapped drive below your DFS-root, for example drive x: mapped to \\dfsroot\folder1 - we can also browse subfolders of folder1
What DOESN'T: Browsing the DFS root itself, when mapped as a network drive. It does NOT work either, when addressed directly using the bottom address bar.

A bug. report it to Microsoft. Also see whether 8.1 still has it. It's out for the broader public as of today, available via windows store for free.
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unipolAuthor Commented:
Hey thanks for the info esskayb2d, I am going to get a virtual Windows 8 test bed machine set up. As I have been unable to investigate the issue I was having fully without one. So when that is done I'll have a Sacrificial Lamb to play with so might give offline DFS folder a try see if its any kop. :)
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unipolAuthor Commented:
Oh Thanks McKnife. I was starting to think I was going mad or just plain missing something..

Glad you were able to replicate and confirm it is a bug in windows 8 not just me running out of talent :p

I'll try windows 8.1 see if it helps and if its not fixed in then get a bug report in with microsoft. :) thanks
I'll let you know if it works.
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McKnifeCommented:
Sorry, just had the time to install 8.1 - same problem.
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unipolAuthor Commented:
Ha ha Thanks just got 79% installed... So you just saved me 21% there. :)
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unipolAuthor Commented:
Ill get the Bug report in to Microsoft.
Thanks for all the help.
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unipolAuthor Commented:
Thanks again.
Shame but looks like the surface is going to wait on a shelf for a fix from Microsoft.
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McKnifeCommented:
It's not surface, it's win8.
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