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In-Place-Updating to 8.1 via ISO and NOT losing your applications

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Disclaimer: anyone should read carefully to understand what I am talking about. Him who does not know what a non-metro-app is, should not participate. Using the ISO of 8.1 to update win8 in place is something totally different to clean installing 8.1

Hi experts.

When using the windows store to update 8 to 8.1, we have no problems.
When using the 8.1 pro ISO file, we have the following problem:
We select to keep apps and settings, everything goes fine but at the end, we lose all non-metro-apps.

Why is that so and how to offline-update to 8.1 pro?
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by:aadih
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Another data point only: Having done the same (using Windows 8.1 ISO Pro file to upgrade from Windows 8 Pro) I have had no problems (except updating IPv6-related drivers).

Are you upgrading from Windows 8 Pro?
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by:McKnife
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Yes, 8 pro to 8.1 pro. Installed apps work, installed non-metro-apps don't - just the same effect as you would get if you had done a refresh (see http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/restore-refresh-reset-pc)
Warning
• Apps you installed from websites and DVDs will be removed. Apps that came with your PC and apps you installed from the Windows Store will be reinstalled. Windows puts a list of removed apps on your desktop after refreshing your PC.

Edit: aadih, please name one application that worked afterwards (one that is common)
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by:aadih
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All of them works. A few: 7-zip, ccleaner, mousetool, classic shell, irfanview, ... office 2013 ...
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by:McKnife
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Well. What should I say: two win8 pro's both the same.
May I ask you for the source and md5 hash of your ISO?
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by:aadih
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File Name: en_windows_8_1_pro_vl_x64_dvd_2971948.iso
Hash(?): CFCDF895679A5116F7F1C6406C20F99A1F850E49

And:

File Name: en_windows_8_1_pro_vl_x86_dvd_2972633.iso
Hash(?): 9F1FCEC3B267EDB6F3BD02566BC889BB4A372BFD

(Note: I didn't get the warning you posted.)

It kept my Windows settings, personal files, and most apps as mentioned by MS:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/upgrade-to-windows-8 >

How did you run the upgrade? From USB? DVD?

Suggest you mount the ISO file in Windows Explorer (by double clicking it) and running the setup.exe to install.

You may also like to peruse, "Windows 8.1 Upgrade Woes," by Paul Thurrott:

http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/windows-81-upgrade-woes >
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by:McKnife
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I didn't get a warning, either. I just quoted it.
Thanks for the hashes. However, I don't use VLs like you. I use plain simple PRO OEM here.
> Suggest you mount the ISO file in Windows Explorer (by double clicking it) and running the setup.exe to install.
That's what I did.

To continue this thread, we will need someone who succeeded without VLs.
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by:aadih
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About OEM (some thing occurred to me):

FWIW: You may need an Windows 8.1 installation ID in the beginning of the upgrade process. After installation, you may (re)activate your Windows 8.1 with your existing Windows 8 Key.
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by:McKnife
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Hmm, I know. But that has nothing to do with my problem ;)
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There are days, where at the end you ask yourself "what the...?"
I just finished a final test. Same win8 iso, same 8.1 iso, same non-metro test software. Works. No problems, nothing missing.
I have no clue what went wrong. The update log does not show problems.
Only difference: that test machine was not domain joined, yet.
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by:aadih
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Great. You got it working. :-)
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by:McKnife
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Usually test systems will work and productive ones fail... ;)
But I have only 2 to go and both are VMs so I will have a snapshot. Will post the results late on Saturday.
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by:McKnife
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Those went fine. I have no clue, why 2 failed.
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by:McKnife
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Should work, but does not always work - that's how I would describe the process ;)
Only thing to worry about is the update log that stays clean even if the non-metro-apps are disabled.
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