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Cannot delete files as Administrator or owner

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I cannot delete files even though I own them.

I am trying to delete files from a Windows directory, which is now the 2nd internal drive, previously it was the main drive.

I re-named the folder to Windows-orig, and things are fine, so I don't need this folder. When I go to delete files / folders, it says "You need permission to perform this action" - but I am the owner of the file.

I followed the instructions here which looked perfect, but I still can't delete . . .
Here:
 file to delete - owned by Stephendelete warning (shield)cannot delete msgStephen = admin
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Question by:Alaska Cowboy
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by:John Hurst
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Since it is a different Windows setup, you probably got a slightly different internal userid in Windows which is preventing this.

Can you right click on windows.old and take ownership of it?   That may allow you to delete the files.

.... Thinkpads_User
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by:Joe Winograd, EE MVE
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In the first screenshot you posted, click the Edit button:
Edit - Change owner toSelect one of the Names that it displays in the "Change owner to" box and then try to delete. Regards, Joe
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by:Alaska Cowboy
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thinkpads_user,
>>right click on windows.old and take ownership of it
-- I assume you're referring to my windows-orig. If so, I took ownership yesterday (as Administrators), but couldn't delete everything / anything. So then I dropped down to an individual folder / file to delete, and still couldn't do it . . .
-- A lot of the files were owned by "Trusted Installer" (or something like that), so I thought I had it fixed, but nooooooo....

Joe,
>>Select one of the Names that it displays in the "Change owner to" box
-- ??, not sure what you mean, that's what I did, and I selected Stephen - Administrator.
owned by Stephen
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File/Folder ownership doesn't necessarily mean you have permission to delete or modify the file, it just means you have permission to control the NTFS permissions on the file.

You're already the owner, so go to the permissions tab and make sure you account has Full Control (or, at very least, Modify permission) on the stuff you want to delete. You can also look at the permissions of the "CREATOR OWNER" object since that's your account to by virtue of your ownership of the file.

Failing that, post some screenshots of the Permissions tab and the Effective Permissions tab (looking specifically at your account's effective permissions).

- Jason
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by:Alaska Cowboy
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jmorouke80,
>>go to the permissions tab and make sure you account has Full Control
-- worked ! (for one file). I'll check more tomorrow night and close out. Thanks !
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by:Joe Winograd, EE MVE
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> that's what I did, and I selected Stephen - Administrator.

That's good...wanted to be sure about Ownership. Next step was Permissions, but I see that Jason already got you there. Regards, Joe
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by:noxcho
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Your solution could be booting from Linux CD such as Parted Magic or GParted and deleting the file via it instead of playing with ownership settings in Windows.
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by:Alaska Cowboy
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Joe, thanks for checking in and tips.

noxcho, ok, good tip, thanks, will keep that in mind.
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by:John Hurst
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Another thing that often works (for future reference) is to create a new Windows Userid, make it a member of the administrators group, and log in as the new user. You can often take full control in this new userid and delete files that way.

.... Thinkpads_User
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by:Alaska Cowboy
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Thinkpads_User, ok, good too, I will have that at the ready tonight as well.
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by:Alaska Cowboy
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still not quite working . . . Wallpaper is owned by Stephen (Administrator) - with full control, but still can't delete it. I can muddle through this, but it seems weird and frustrating.
Wallpaper ownerWallpaper permissionsWallpaper cannot deleteWallpaper cannot delete-2Wallpaper-permissions.PNG
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by:John Hurst
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Can you go to the top of this folder structure?  Go to Security Options (as you show above) and then click on Advanced.  Make sure you are applying admin permissions and then check (select) the box that says Replace all child object permissions with inheritable permissions from this object.

.... Thinkpads_User
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by:Alaska Cowboy
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Thinkpads_user,
I did that and it looks good to me . . . but it wasn't working so I tried a lower level folder (Wallpaper)
Windows-orig propertiesWindows-orig owner
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by:John Hurst
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Try logging on as a different user and re-assigning permissions from the top. That has always worked for me.

There was a prior comment about booting with a Linux CD.  Try booting with Ultimate Boot CD (Windows) and see if you can delete the file using UBCD.

.... Thinkpads_User
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by:Alaska Cowboy
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>>Try logging on as a different user and re-assigning permissions from the top. That has always worked for me.
- ok, trying that now.
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by:Alaska Cowboy
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I set up Bill as Administrator, changed permissions on Window-orig, but still can't delete . . . also tried changing on Web, but no luck :-( No worries, I'll just work on this piece-meal.

Windows-orig propertiesWeb folder propertiesWeb folder cannot deleteBill = Admin
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by:Alaska Cowboy
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It's not perfect, but I can work through it, I have the fundamentals to delete. I will just work on this bit-by-bit, hopefully I'll catch the global issue and be able to zap it all.
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@williampeck - Thanks for the update and I was happy to help.

... Thinkpads_User
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