does deleting music or apps on authorized PC1 remove them from authorized PC2?

Posted on 2013-11-12
Last Modified: 2013-11-25
The title explains the basic core of my question, but I should give some background about the scenario and why I'm asking. The steps I took, directly related to this question are steps 9, 10 and 11, below.

I helped a parent "split" their son off of their iTunes account in order to get him a new iPod on his own iTunes Store account. (This is a typical scenario that I think parents make the mistake to do: The parent puts their own iTunes account on the kid's ipod and sync with parent's PC. This gives a lot of control, but combines child and parent music and apps which is not good and is difficult to split)

The best procedure I found to do that while still retaining music and apps purchased for the son was this:
1- make sure Son's old iPod is synced to Parent's PC.
2- Unbox new iPod, connect it to USB on Parent PC, set up the ipod by restoring recent backup to son's iPod.
3- Get HomeGroup sharing working between the parent's and son's PCs.
4- Share Parent's Music folder
5- Make sure both PCs are updated to latest iTunes version
6- Consolidate iTunes library on Parent PC: "File > Library > Organize Library... > Consolidate Files."
7- Copy "iTunes Media" folder from Parent PC to Son's PC into Son's "iTunes" folder, let Windows combine the folders. (This assumes Son's iTunes is blank, unused)
8- Open iTunes, let it find media.
9- Authorize Son's PC iTunes with Parent's iTunes account. (Now he should be able to continue to use "shared" content purchased under parent's account)
10- Also Authorize Son's PC iTunes with Son's new iTunes Account (you can authorize up to 5 accounts on one iTunes PC)
11- Enter Son's iTunes account into iPod iTunes Store account so he is purchasing new media with his own account.

So now we have Parent's PC and Son's PC authorized with the Parent's iTunes account. The parent would now LOVE to REMOVE all of the son's music and apps from her computer. If she does so, how does that affect the media that is now copied to Son's PC? Does it remove it from his library? Does it make it unplayable? Does it do nothing?

Another twist that may affect your answer is that both Parent and Son will use iCloud to back up their devices. They currently backup to iTunes through USB, but they want to do it through the iCloud. So if Parent's and Son's media are each backed up to their own iCloud account (parent to parent iCloud and son to son iCloud - different accounts) THEN would the parent deleting son's media off her PC affect son's PC or iPod at all?

My sense is that the Parent can delete whatever she wants and nothing at all will happen to the "shared" media on son's PC or iCloud.
Question by:RickNCN
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by:John Hurst
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I have my partner's iPhone set to Sync music via iTunes and it does. I have my iPhone set not to Sync music and it does not.

I sync via USB to iTunes and I suggest you leave it that way until everything is tested.

I use one account at Apple to manage both (all) phones.

I think you can delete stuff on one phone without affecting the rest but I have not tried that.

Another thing you can do (I have inadvertently tried this) is you could ensure good backups and then do a factory reset on the son's phone and then sync only what you want.

I think you could set up music for the son on the other PC and sync it, but test this first.

I also keep all the apps on one PC but that may not fit you.

.... Thinkpads_User

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ID: 39657536
That is what we have done. I think I explained this, above. We wiped the iPod. We selected what was needed for the son and synced it over USB on the Mom's PC. Then we copied mom's library over to son's laptop. We synced again: son's iPod to son laptop over USB. Seemed to be fine. We then changed son's iPod to his iTunes account. We also authorized son's laptop for his iTunes account.  The only snag we hit was logging into iTunes store in iTunes crashed. (we had to add a path to the Apple install on the PC to the system and user PATH settings on the PC)

So, everything is working.

The main question I haven't gotten answered yet is: If the mom deletes media from her PC will it in any way affect the son's device?

2nd question, same as the first, but what if mom and son are both using iCloud (on their separate accounts) to backup their devices?
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John Hurst earned 500 total points
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If Mom deletes media and Son syncs to that PC, media will be deleted on Son's device. If Son does not sync to Mom's PC then the media should not be deleted.

If Son and Mom are both using iCloud, they would have to be different accounts, otherwise deletions will sync.

... Thinkpads_User

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ID: 39675625
Thanks. I think that answers it.
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by:John Hurst
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@rickNCN - Thanks, and I was happy to help.
... Thinkpads_User

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