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How to access to SkyDrive, OneNote, etc. in Windows 8.1 without changing the entire login from local Windows to MS account

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Prior installing the update Windows 8.1, in our Window 8 version, when we wanted to access SkyDrive, OneNote and Skype (all Windows 8 versions), we just enter our Microsoft account email and password and was ready to go.

After installing Windows 8.1, when accessing SkyDrive, OneNote and Skype, after entering our MS account info, it change entirely our windows logon.  Now when the PC is started, we have to enter the MS account logon.  Also, the MS account is displays in the logon screen, not the local Windows username.

How can we have we the logon back to windows local user account and also have access to our SkyDrive, OneNote and Skype (at least kyDrive and OneNote).
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by:John Hurst
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Go to Control Panel, User Accounts and click on "Make Changes to User Account". In there, you can revert to a local account. I did that and use a local account on my Windows 8.1 box.

I use Desktop Skype and that works fine.

I do not use Sky Drive, but I am allowed to sign up for it with Office 365 so that should work as well.

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by:John Hurst
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Also, you need Windows 8.1 Pro for this to work. I am not entirely certain but I think if you have Windows 8 Home, you must settle for an email account.

Let the world know your email address and we can all log into your computer :)   Not really :)

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by:rayluvs
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Thats what we did in user account and always when entering SkyDrive, OneNote and Skype it ask for the same process of MS account and aging change the logon.

I have Windows 8.1 Pro, it a 6 month old notebook.

We have to use SkyDrive and OneNote Windows 8 version.

There has to be a way.
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by:John Hurst
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There may not be a way as Microsoft is really pushing exposing your computer to the whole world.

Try this:  Go to Metro and go to Store. Does it want to make you have a Microsoft ID?  If so, look down at the bottom and there is a link along the lines of "Click here for individual store apps ... Not recommended"  

I had to click on that in order to use the Store with a local ID.

Try that to see if it helps you.

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by:John Hurst
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Microsoft offers Sky Drive Pro and that works with Office 365. That may help you.

http://office.microsoft.com/en-ca/sharepoint-server-help/what-is-skydrive-pro-HA102822076.aspx

Otherwise, with the home or consumer offerings, you probably have to use a Microsoft Account.

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by:rayluvs
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Ok wil try and inform
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by:rayluvs
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tried "Go to Metro and go to Store" but there is no "Click here for individual store apps ... ".

Yet, did try to install an apps and it asks for my ms account.  I thought it was just for the apps, but the questions is just like when you switch your entire local account to ms account... i canceled it.

We've been great fan of MS but this is the first time we don't like how they are doing this.

And another thing, the 8.1 installation never said this was going to happen nor during the installation.

What can we do?
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by:John Hurst
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It took me a couple of tries and I cannot replicate because now I can get into the Store.

When you go to the Store, right click at the bottom and see if it brings up "Your Apps" . It may have been there where I could register for individual apps and then bypass the need for a Microsoft Account.

And another thing, the 8.1 installation never said this was going to happen nor during the installation.

Yes, that is true. That is how it worked.

You can go to Microsoft Support and see if you can set up a Chat session. They may be able to help you.

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by:rayluvs
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Right-click and "You Apps" displayed.  When I click on it, it ask for "sign-in".

Don't understand why your instruction for right-click on Store, what was the purpose?
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by:John Hurst
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There are options in the Store screen that appear when you right click on the Store screen.

I thought they would appear even when it was asking for sign in.

So if you cannot (anywhere on the sign on screen) right click and get a menu, then I am not sure what. In my travels on this screen (waiting for sign in) I got a link that allowed me to access individual apps (marked not recommended) that now give me Store Access for my existing apps. I cannot buy anything but I can get to the Store and My existing Apps with a local login.

Try going to Metro and there is a down arrow that shows all Apps. Click on an App that you already have. See if doing that reveals the link.

.... Thinkpads_User
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by:rayluvs
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We right-click and get the menu (see pic below).  What we meant is that when clicking any apps to install, it asks for sign-in.

stopres
Also we click to show all appps and see our current store apps installed prior 8.1, but dont see the link.  How can we see it?
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by:John Hurst
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As I have noted, I did this and so can no longer get to that link. So I cannot show you.

Did you try to click on an app to install it or update it?

When you clicked on "Your Apps" a new screen came up. Did you try right clicking on that?

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by:rayluvs
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yes and it ask for sign-in, but is not the sign in as inw Windows 8, is the new sign-in that will replace my local account.
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by:John Hurst
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If you read through this Tech Republic article below, it suggests you have a Local account for some uses and a Microsoft Account for Sky Drive.

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/windows-and-office/quick-tip-change-to-a-local-account-in-windows-81/

I can see two alternatives:

1. Use Microsoft Support (chat should be free) and ask how to access the Store with a local account.

2. Create another user on your machine which is a Microsoft Account user and allows you to do things you want. Use the Local Account for local use and administrative use.

I did say above that the only thing I am using in your list is Skype and I use the desktop version for that.

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by:John Hurst
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I have Office 365/2013 installed on my Windows 8.1 machine. I discovered that I can get to SkyDrive on the desktop via Office using my Office 365 login (which is not my local Windows 8 login).

See the picture below.

SkyDrive Connection
I am fairly sure OneNote Desktop will do this also.

So with a Local Account, I can:
1. Use Skype.
2. Use SkyDrive via Office 2013
3. Probably use cloud OneNote (which I do not have).

So what you want can be done via desktop tools, and if you cannot get Store to work with individual apps, you will need to contact Microsoft.

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by:rayluvs
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Thanx for the info and as a matter of fact, when you stated "create another user on your machine ... Use the Local Account for local use and administrative use.", I think this worked initially.  Let me explain:

When we installed 8.1, the setup ask for a user and we gave it another username created temp stuff.  We did noticed that that username was replaced with ms account.  We didn't think much of it and all our apps in the real day-to-day username worked as always.

See your entry, I just realize that the problem we have, the purpose of the EE question, is because last week we decided to remove the ms account to that temp username.  And for no reason, we went and connected the real username with the ms account and bingo, the problem.

We'll try your recommendation, it may be it.
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by:rayluvs
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Unsuccessful... we created a new user  with the ms account and left our main user as local.  We tried to setup our onenote (which is the most we use) but when clicking on it, it says it need the ms account.  When entering the account info, it says there is already an account in the PC.  

Another thing, in the new account linked to a ms account we installed some apps from store but when accessing with the local account, the icons don't displayed; accessible.


In conclusion, without replacing your local login with ms account login, our local account will have NO access to Windows Apps from Store nor any standard Windows 8 apps that previously used, like OneNote, SkyDrive and Skype.
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by:rayluvs
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Also just finish checking the apps installed with the ms account on the user we created and are not found.  Where they uninstalled when i disconnected from ms account?
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by:John Hurst
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With my local login:

1. I can access the Store (although I cannot buy anything).
2. I can use Sky Drive (I ran it via Office).
3. I can and do use Skype.


You should call Microsoft Support or use Microsoft Chat to see what is going on.

.... Thinkpads_User
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Did you disable User Account Contol (UAC) on this machine? That will prevent use of the Store and possibly other applications.
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by:rayluvs
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yes dishable
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by:John Hurst
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OK. That is why your Store, SkyDrive and such do not work. You must have UAC enabled to use the Store features.

It is not a good idea to disable UAC on Windows 7 and Windows 8. It is designed to be used and works well.

So I recommend you enable UAC and try the Store again.

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by:John Hurst
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So what are you going to do?

Disable UAC = No Store and stuff you want.
Enable UAC should get you want you want.

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by:rayluvs
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Enabled it and went to store and it still wants to make my login user switch to hotmail (ms) account.

Also went into ms chat but get virtual tech and we have taken over 45 min with diferent tyope of questions formation and the chat never understood or gave related answer.
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by:John Hurst
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It is within reason (happened to many people) that your Windows 8.1 install went bad.

So if Microsoft cannot solve this, you may be at the point where you need to do a Windows 8 refresh (if available now that you have upgraded) or else reinstall Windows.

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by:rayluvs
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Ok to be sure we understand, you mean that if UAC is enabled we can access Windows 8.1 apps (like SkyDrive, OneNote and Store) without making switching to MS account?

(remember that this is the core of the question placed in EE)
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My Windows 8.1 machine has NO Microsoft Account, only a Local Account. I have UAC enabled and always have on Windows 8 (and Windows 7).

I can access the Store. I can install existing apps and when I did that the link came up again to do this for individual apps (not recommended). Otherwise it was trying to switch me.

I can access SkyDrive via Office 2013 and have done that.

I can access One Note in the cloud, but I did not because I want One Note to be local.

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I should add a bit of clarity to wrap up.

I use a Local account on Windows 8.1. At this point, I do not want a Microsoft email account. I have UAC enabled.

I do not keep documents in the cloud. I can use Sky Drive, Skype, One Note and the Store.

But my access is not unfettered as it keeps reminding me to change my account.

So, if you want unfettered access to all Microsoft and Cloud services with Windows 8.1 you (a) must enable UAC and (b) you probably need to use a Microsoft Account as designed.

... Thinkpads_User
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by:rayluvs
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IT WORKED!!!! CAN'T BELIEVE HOW SIMPLE IT WAS!!!!!

All this time, i just didn't do the click on the link "(not recommended)".  Since you mentioned it again, we just reread the thread and saw it: click on "(not recommended)"!

Ok my friend have all my Windows 8 apps working how they should be (except SkyDrive which wants me to go "PC SETTINGS", but we can use it via web or the shared local drive option).

Again Thanx!
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Thanx
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@Ramante - Thank you and I was happy to work with you on this. I glad you got it working.

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