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office 2013 home and business msi installer?

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hi hope you are all well.

ive got 8 machines to deploy which i am sysprepping / imaging.

i have office 2013 home and business retail licenses. i dont want to download 2gb 8 times - is there anyway to install office 2013 home and business before i run sysprep? (obviously id need to be able to change the key for office afterwards....im worried that if i use the clcik to run stuff that i wont be able to do that - id really like to be able to install from an msi).

is there an msi i can download?
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by:weinberk
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Been there done that.

If you install office and sysprep, you'll need to reenter not just the windows key, but also the Office key.  Office installations (and Windows) will work during a grace period, but will prompt after that.    You can activate the Office installations before that with ease.

 (This is in a MAK environment, not KMS where this would be automatic.  I assume you don't have a KMS server based on 8 machines and home and office).

Give it a go.  It'll work.
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by:247computerdoctor
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no, no servers.

are you sure i can use the "click to run" install method in this way before i sysprep?

id feel a lot happier with an msi....
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There is no msi installer.

There's one on technet for the Professional Plus version, but that's it.  

Jim.
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by:247computerdoctor
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yeah, i couldnt find one anywhere. f**king MS. why cant they just leave good things alone???

the one issue is that i have to enter a license key to get it to install the first copy of click to run.

if i then sysprep it, im worried that they will say its been activated more than once....any thoughts?
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by:weinberk
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Do you have multiple license keys?  You'll need that to do this legitimately. It will detect that your system has been syspreped and need a new activation.
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by:247computerdoctor
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i have legitimate retail MLK licenses,
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by:weinberk
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Ok, then I don't see any issue with installing this, and doing a sysprep.  Office should know that the installation has changed after booting on new systems and will allow you to enter a new key.
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ok - i trust you - i'll give it a go and post back what i find! thanks for your help!
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Can you install Office 2013 without being internet connected?  That way there's no chance of it activating and you won't waste one of the activations when you sysprep.
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by:247computerdoctor
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no - its online only i believe  -hence the desire for an msi package. havent tried the sysprep yet - will let you know what happens
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by:247computerdoctor
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ok, i chickened out of sysprepping it. by the way, DO NOT do the following - sign in with your ms account and download the installer stub and then use that installer stub on other machines - it wont work and there doesnt seem to be a way to change the key post install.
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ahh bloody hell. ALSO DONT DO THIS: use one microsoft account to load up multiple office 2013 home and business keys. there is NO WAY to tell which of the (6) installs is which, it wont tell you the product key before you download it so you have to guess. if its the worng one, it says that the key has already been activated. what a fu**ing f**king stupid stupid way to go about this. MS? are you listening? why IS IT SO DIFFICULT TO DO THIS?

</rant>

for crying out loud!

ive seen something about changing the key using command line, i'll try this next.
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i think ive just figured out how to tell one from the other. when you download the installer stub, it has a long key in the filename. it seems to be consistent when you download from the same link. so you can at least know if youve already installed it before doing the whole streaming instlal nonsense (please jkust give me an msi!!) prioviding you keep track of the installer stub names.
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argh!!

ok, the post above is not neccesarily true.

ive gotten the same downloader file name for several different keys now. the mystery continues.

if anyone can tell me how to identify on the ms account page which download button gives me which product key without having to download 4 gb or whatever of ms office before it tells me that the key has been used i would be MOST gratefull!

(and please dont tell me that you can do  burn disk, show product key because the product key displayed on the burn disk option is NOT THE SAME as the product key on the card)
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sorry, you're outside of my expertise now.  So for my reference, if you install the retail license and sysprep, it doesn't remove the key and prompt for activation on the newly imaged machine like we're used to with volume licenses?
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by:247computerdoctor
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I dont know as I didn't try it after reading lots of horror stories online about changing the key not working.  I did try to change the key via command line on one install but it failed and I couldn't find a way round it. Luckily the second download link I tried worked. Its a complete mess. Its deliberately difficult to do I reckon so that you are forced to buy volume licences at twice the price. Would love to know a solution for this for future reference though.
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hi,

there is no solution for this.

the best i have found is to choose the "burn disk" option, which will allow you to see the key it uses (be careful, because this key is different to the one on your key card)

so, download the iso / burn the disk if neccesary, note which machine it is installed on, write down the "burn disk" key on the key card, store the disk image or the burnt disk and key together, this is pathetic, but its the only way until ms actually let us see the keycard key on the account page.

so, 4gb per pc download. thanks for the clever streaming tech. its pretty, and its clever, but its not really usefull. to be honest, if im going to download 4gb, i couldnt give a f*ck if i can use word temporarily while it downloads. just give me an msi installer that i can put the key in. then i only have to download 4gb once, right? and it will be quicker to install from (gasp) a disk or msi or image than it will be to download it again and again and again.

stupid. stupid. why are we going backwards?

major fail ms, really major fail. could be so easily sorted out. in fact, its so obvious that it must be deliberate. yet another nail in the coffin of the MS and small business dialogue.  such a shame. my job is based on this. wont be long now before its linux and wine. all its going to take is sage to come out with a linux version and small businesses will be off like a shot. retraining for me i think.
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there is no solution
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