Printpage margins

How can I absolutely position text on a printed page. The margins of the printpage graphics object are relative to the printer's capability. What I really want is to position the following text exactly 1" from the physical border of the printed page.

e.Graphics.DrawString("TEXT", New Font("Arial", 9), Brushes.Black, New Point(100, 100))

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Please note that OriginsAtMargins is not the answser. From MSDN:
Calculating the area available to print requires knowing the physical size of the paper, the margins for the page, and the location of the Graphics object origin. When OriginAtMargins is true, the Graphics object location takes into account the PageSettings.Margins property value and the printable area of the page. When OriginAtMargins is false, only the printable area of the page is used to determine the location of the Graphics object origin, the PageSettings.Margins value is ignored.

Again, what I want is the origin at the physical edge of the page, not the printable area.
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mankowitzAsked:
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DansDadUKConnect With a Mentor Commented:
Something like that, provided that the various different methods/properties are using the same units (which I assume to be 1/100 inch if the 100 values are supposed to represent 1 inch), and that you've previously set OriginAtMargins to false (only the printable area of the page is used to determine the location of the Graphics object origin).
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Bob LearnedCommented:
It almost sounds like you need to check the hard margins:

PageSettings.HardMarginX Property
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.drawing.printing.pagesettings.hardmarginx(v=vs.110).aspx

The hard margin represents the physical margin set by the printer.
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DansDadUKCommented:
Perhaps by making use of the PageSettings.HardMarginX, PageSettings.HardMarginY properties (and, perhaps, PageSettings.PrintableArea) ?

I'm putting this forward from a position of ignorance, as I've never used Graphics objects (or VB, come to that).
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DansDadUKCommented:
Sorry, TheLearnedOne: I was composing my response whilst you were posting yours!
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mankowitzAuthor Commented:
Sorry, that doesn't help. Please look at MSDN. The Hard Margins are the printer's maximum capability, not the edge of the page. Soft margins are the margins determined by the software. I want to place items relative to the physical edge of the page.

For example, I have a form that needs to be printed upon. The form may be fed into printers with different hard margins. I want to position things relative to the physical page edge.

Thanks.

Again, what I want is the origin at the physical edge of the page, not the printable area.
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DansDadUKCommented:
As far as I can make out, the Graphics sub-system won't let you place the origin outside of the printable area of the target device.

But knowing the hard margin value for the current device, you can work out an offset so that all of your measurements can effectively be made relative to the physical edge of the page.

As the hard margin may quite possibly vary from device to device (and with page size), the offset used will also vary, and at any one time will only be correct for the current device.
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mankowitzAuthor Commented:
dans,

ok, I understand. Can you give me an algorithm for placing objects relative to the physical page edge? How do I know the displacement from the physical page edge to the hard margin?
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DansDadUKCommented:
The displacement is whatever value is returned by the HardMarginX/Y property, in whatever units those values are given.

So if you set the origin to the hard (not soft) margins, then:
Relative position = physical position - displacement

You obviously have to make sure that all these measurements are using the same units.
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DansDadUKCommented:
... but bear in mind that with most printers, positions are probably not guaranteed to be more accurate than (say) +/- 2mm, due to mechanical paper path mechanisms.
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mankowitzAuthor Commented:
so,

e.Graphics.DrawString("TEXT", New Font("Arial", 9), Brushes.Black, New Point(100 - ps.HardMarginX, 100 - ps.HardMarginY))

is that right?
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mankowitzAuthor Commented:
I was hoping for some actual code, verified to be working, but this is a good start.
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