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Posted on 2013-12-06
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I seem to forget some fine GUI details of MS Access basic forms.
I use "#.0" format for my input (human body temperature; so I do not want 98.314159).
This format displays what I need but in some cases it displays ".0" string inappropriately, and that annoyingly inhibits number typing.
Is there any way to
1) type the value without any messing untyped characters, whether mouse is used or not.
2) display result in the defined format after field typing is complete (with, say, <Enter>).
Please see the attached image for details.
Thanks.
PS: I am not a rookie, just forgot :-(
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Question by:midfde
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by:mastoo
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Try #.#
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by:midfde
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All the same.
I forgot to mention that 98 should display as "98.0", i.e. with ".0"
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by:Emil_Gray
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In the After Update use this:

 Format(Round([yourfield],1),"#.0")
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by:mbizup
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The format string you posted is working consistently for me in Access 2010, datasheet view, regardless of whether I tab or mouse click on the field.   The trailing zero does not show up unless either I put it there intentionally, or I move away from the field (it updates with a trailing zero)

Do you have any Current Event code for example, that does any kind of manipulation on the new record - populating other fields, etc?
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by:Emil_Gray
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Can you attach a db with sample data for your table, form and query for the form?
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by:Emil_Gray
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You might want to read the information presented in this other thread regarding trailing zeros. http://www.access-programmers.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=176425
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by:midfde
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Ok, eeTemp.accdb is attached.
Access AbouteeTemp.accdb
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The default value of zero in your table design is causing this problem...

So the workaround if you must have it default to zero is to remove the default setting at the table level and handle it at the form level with code in the after update event of the textbox to force it to zero if it is null.
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by:midfde
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Thanks, mbizup. Could you please formulate the feature that you (and I) discovered? Is it an MS Access bug (I know: "No way, just undocumented!") ?
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by:mbizup
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Oddly -- annoying as it is from a UI and a developer standpoint, I don't think MS would qualify that as a bug.

Having a default value is having the field prepopulated for you in the desired format... so it is doing exactly what you are telling it to do.

This is more apparent if you enter data directly into the table without using a form interface.  You'll see the .0 there before you even start entering data into the new record.

A form is slower to respond, but try entering data in a new record, in any of the other fields before entering data in the input field.  You'll see that .0 pop up as soon as you give a value to any field in that new record.
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by:mbizup
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So you could handle that in either of two ways, I guess...

1.  drop the table level default

or

2.  set the format in the after update event, so that the default value isn't subject to the formatting.
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by:midfde
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Well, what is the difference from you point of view between upper and lower pictures in my original message attached image.
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by:mbizup
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I'm not sure what the exact steps you followed to get the screenshots were, but this is what I noticed entering data myself:

 - In NEW records, I consistently saw the .0  
 - In existing records I consistently did NOT see the .0 when editing data

In a new record, the formatted default value automatically (and rather suddenly) appears as soon as you start entering data in any field... which of course is annoying if the first item you enter is in the "input" field.

With editing existing records (which I think is what your first picture shows), you don't get the .0 popping up because the default value only applies to new records.  So when you start typing data in the Input field of an existing record, you are overwriting/blanking out the existing data, versus triggering the formatted default value to appear.

So annoying from a UI perspective -- yes....... but a bug -- probably not.
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by:midfde
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>>I'm not sure...
Have you read about "Press <tab>..." there?Tab-Tab-Tab...Are "annoying" undocumented feature (BTW, what is it?)  and a bug both synonyms?

Thanks for the discussion anyway.
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