Enter the name and password of an account with permission for bergquistcompany.com
Hello EE,
We have an empty forest root and we have a child domain where users authenticate:
Forest: Bergquistcompany.com
Child: northamerica.bergquistcompany.com
When I go to the child domain and under users/computers try to add a user under security to a distribution list I get a prompt "Enter the name and password of an account with permissions for Bergquistcompany.com"
There is a 2 way trust so why am I getting prompted?
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bergquistcompany
8/22/2022 - Mon
Sean
Domain admins are still separate groups. Make sure your user is in both domain's domain admin group.
Will Szymkowski
Child Domains, when created automatically have a 2 way transitive trust enabled. As stated domains are separate entities and require domain admins privledges in each specific domain.
Will.
bergquistcompany
ASKER
So from the root domain I can add child accounts but from the child domain I should be prompted to add root accounts?
I am getting these events which are new on the child DC:
1. Windows cannot query for the list of Group Policy objects. Check the event log for possible messages previously logged by the policy engine that describes the reason for this.
2. The attempt to establish a replication link for the following writable directory partition failed.
DCDIAG:
Testing server: Chanhassen\BQDC2
Starting test: Advertising
The DC BQDC2 is advertising itself as a DC and having a DS.
The DC BQDC2 is advertising as an LDAP server
The DC BQDC2 is advertising as having a writeable directory
The DC BQDC2 is advertising as a Key Distribution Center
The DC BQDC2 is advertising as a time server
The DS BQDC2 is advertising as a GC.
......................... BQDC2 passed test Advertising
Test omitted by user request: CheckSecurityError
Test omitted by user request: CutoffServers
Test omitted by user request: FrsEvent
Test omitted by user request: DFSREvent
Starting test: SysVolCheck
* The File Replication Service SYSVOL ready test
File Replication Service's SYSVOL is ready
......................... BQDC2 passed test SysVolCheck
and
Testing server: Chanhassen\BQDC1
Starting test: Advertising
The DC BQDC1 is advertising itself as a DC and having a DS.
The DC BQDC1 is advertising as an LDAP server
The DC BQDC1 is advertising as having a writeable directory
The DC BQDC1 is advertising as a Key Distribution Center
The DC BQDC1 is advertising as a time server
The DS BQDC1 is advertising as a GC.
......................... BQDC1 passed test Advertising
Test omitted by user request: CheckSecurityError
Test omitted by user request: CutoffServers
Test omitted by user request: FrsEvent
Test omitted by user request: DFSREvent
Starting test: SysVolCheck
* The File Replication Service SYSVOL ready test
File Replication Service's SYSVOL is ready
......................... BQDC1 passed test SysVolCheck
Ram Balachandran
Those errors from event logs that you have mentioned - when it was created (date )?
How you are accessing child domain ? are you logged in to a computer which in part of child domain ?
bergquistcompany
ASKER
All users are on the child domain. The parent BQDC1 and 2 are empty root domains
The other was a couple days ago but this is 10 min ago
The attempt to establish a replication link to a read-only directory partition with the following parameters failed.
Additional Data
Error value:
1908 Could not find the domain controller for this domain.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
Ram Balachandran
I believe this error has nothing to do with prompt you get. This could be because of some network connectivity issue.Based on the previous test results there seems no issues with connectivity between domains, for replication test you can run following command
repadmin /replsummary
Meanwhile, if you try to add user from another domain, it might ask for credentials. Ensure your ID is having sufficient privileges.
Have you setup proper name resolution between parent and child domain ?
What is the domain DNS zone name in parent and child domain ?
Does both zone names are same or different ?
If both zone names are different, then in child domain, in DNS server, under Conditional forwarder, add parent domain with its dns server ip address so that you can resolve parent domain queries from child domain
Also check that if you are able to resolve child domain queries from parent domain ? If not add delegation in parent domain dns zone pointing to child domain dns server
Lastly, check that_msdcs.domain.com zone is populated in child domain or not ?
Also check if Domaindnszones partition (folder) exists in child domain dns zone on child DC
If everything above is prefect, just try to replicate from parent domain to child domain in active directory sites and services
Mahesh
bergquistcompany
ASKER
@ ram_kerala - so if I'm on the child and add security for anyone in the child it isn't prompting but if I change the domain to bergquistcompany.com it prompts me is that expected?
If I go into DNS for the parent under Forward Lookup Zones I see bergquistcompany.com under which I have a folder for Northamerica
Parent: bergquistcompany.com
Child: Northamerica (see attached)
On the child I only see cached, forward lookup and reverse not conditional (2003 server)
Yes _msdcs.bergquistcompany.com is under forward lookup. Yes under ForestDNS under bergquistcompany.com in child (see attached capture 2) Capture.JPG Capture2.JPG
Why a trust relationship just lay the "road" for future traffic. Just because a trust is in place doesn mean traffic can flow each domain needs to have the proper permissions assign as other E.E experts have points out.
You stated that you receive a password prompt while selecting the parent domain from the child domain. Is you account a member of the domain admins group in the parent domain. If not, the password prompt you are receiving may be "normal" than,,,
Did you manually create trust or did windows create it for you when the child domain was added?
Ram Balachandran
coming to replication related error:
What is the authentication method used in BQDC2 while compared with other DCs
Is there any other errors found in event logs ?
Is the time and timezone same in BQDC2 while compared with other DCs ?
Mahesh
From screen shot its clear that in parent domain you have subdomain folder pointing to child domain and same parent zone is getting replicated to child domain as well.
So you should be able to resolve child domain names from parent domain and vice versa.
Are you able to resolve parent domain from child domain ?
Also try to validate \ verify trust from child domain and parent domain in Active directory domains and trust..
The following article I found is very interesting and confirms what I and other have stated. A child domain is still a different security boundary from the parent.
@ compdigit44 there is a transitive 2 way trust with parent child. Attached dcdiag
NLTest parent:
C:\Windows\system32>nltest /dclist:bergquistcompany.com
Get list of DCs in domain 'bergquistcompany.com' from '\\BQDC2.bergquistcompany.
com'.
BQDC2.bergquistcompany.com [DS] Site: Chanhassen
BQDC1.bergquistcompany.com [PDC] [DS] Site: Chanhassen
The command completed successfully
NLTEST child:
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator.CHDC1>nltest /dclist:northamerica.bergq
istcompany.com
Get list of DCs in domain 'northamerica.bergquistcompany.com' from '\\chdc1.nor
hamerica.bergquistcompany.com'.
chdc1.northamerica.bergquistcompany.com [PDC] [DS] Site: Chanhassen
cfdc1.northamerica.bergquistcompany.com [DS] Site: CannonFalls
chef.northamerica.bergquistcompany.com [DS] Site: Torrington
KYLE.northamerica.bergquistcompany.com [DS] Site: Torrington
brickrock.northamerica.bergquistcompany.com [DS] Site: Brandon
ALVIN.northamerica.bergquistcompany.com [DS] Site: Brandon
PDC2.northamerica.bergquistcompany.com [DS] Site: Prescott
ch-riverbed.northamerica.bergquistcompany.com
cf-riverbed.northamerica.bergquistcompany.com
br-riverbed.northamerica.bergquistcompany.com
pr-riverbed.northamerica.bergquistcompany.com
BRDC1.northamerica.bergquistcompany.com [DS] Site: Brandon
BFDC1.northamerica.bergquistcompany.com [DS] Site: BigFork
The command completed successfully
@ ram_kerala it consistently shows Source:
BQDC2 15d.18h:50m:00s 6 / 14 42 (1908) Could not find the do
main controller for this domain.
Destination: CHDC1 (child domain)
This is a new error on BQDC2 today: 1908 A pointer device did not report a valid unit of angular measurement.
Another interesting thing is on BQDC1 (other parent DC I have 2 BQDC1 in DNS (see attached) and only BQDC2 listed once on BQDC2 DNS.
I haven't had much time to review the Dcdiag in detail but I did notice some errors.
1) have there been any changes in the parent domain recently?
2) Check your sercuity logs on your parent DC for kerbose errors?
3) please upload the results of the following command from the parent and child domain:
repadmin /showrepl >c:\repl.txt
4) upload a screen shot of your all your msdc dns records for your parents and child domains.
5) How long has this issue be going on?
What OS are all of your DC's running?
What is your domain & functional levels?
What is server CFDC1?
Can you please upload a screen shot of your AD DNS records?
bergquistcompany
ASKER
@compdigit44
1) no changes recently but we would like to eventually replace one of the child DCs as it's 2003 and we'd like to get to 2012.
2) Zero errors in security
3) see attached error on child reference to parent 1908 no DC
4) attached
5) unfortunately it's intermittent
@ ram_kerala ok thanks for the suggestion I'll see what others say
@ compdigit44 some DCs are 2003 some are 2012 we are wanting to get them all to 2012. CFDC1 is a child level DC at one of our branch office. All our branch offices have DCs. See capture.jpg and mixed mode given the environment has both versions repl.txt replchild.txt Capture.JPG
Also if it helps this morning in addition to the repadmin /replsummary showing source BQDC2 (2nd parent) and destination CHDC1 (child) 1908 could not find the domain controller for this domain.
Note: BQDC1 points to self for DNS primary and BQDC2 as secondary. BQDC2 is reverse of that. Forwarders on BQDC1 are ISP and forwarders on BQDC2 are other internal DCs.
BQDC2 shows this error which is new in system log: Dynamic registration or deregistration of one or more DNS records failed with the following error:
No DNS servers configured for local system.
CHDC1 shows this error
The attempt to establish a replication link for the following writable directory partition failed.
This domain controller will be unable to replicate with the source domain controller until this problem is corrected.
User Action
Verify if the source domain controller is accessible or network connectivity is available.
Additional Data
Error value:
1908 Could not find the domain controller for this domain.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
compdigit44
Your DNS configu on the servers seems correct. It is the best practice to point AD DNS server to themselves and then to another server. Please note, you should never us a loop back address for the primary DNS server IP.
Let do the following, on BQDC2 type the following commands at the command prompt:
1) ipconfig /flusdns
2) netsh ip delete arpcache
3) dcdiag /fix
4) net stop netlogon
5) net start netlogon
6) Rerun the repadmin /showrepl command in both domain and post the results
Let us know how you make out!!!!
bergquistcompany
ASKER
Thank you so much for your help thus far
1. done
2. changed to netsh interface ip delete arpcache....ok
3. Below are results: REPLICATION LATENCY WARNING ERROR: Expected
notificationtion link is missing. Source CHDC1
4-5. Done
6. Clean for BQDC2 and lots of errors for CHDC1
Directory Server Diagnosis
Performing initial setup:
Trying to find home server...
Home Server = BQDC2
* Identified AD Forest.
Done gathering initial info.
Testing server: Chanhassen\BQDC2
Starting test: Advertising
......................... BQDC2 passed test Advertising
Starting test: FrsEvent
......................... BQDC2 passed test FrsEvent
Starting test: DFSREvent
......................... BQDC2 passed test DFSREvent
Starting test: SysVolCheck
......................... BQDC2 passed test SysVolCheck
Starting test: KccEvent
......................... BQDC2 passed test KccEvent
Starting test: KnowsOfRoleHolders
......................... BQDC2 passed test KnowsOfRoleHolders
Starting test: MachineAccount
......................... BQDC2 passed test MachineAccount
Starting test: NCSecDesc
......................... BQDC2 passed test NCSecDesc
Starting test: NetLogons
......................... BQDC2 passed test NetLogons
Starting test: ObjectsReplicated
......................... BQDC2 passed test ObjectsReplicated
Starting test: Replications
REPLICATION LATENCY WARNING
ERROR: Expected notification link is missing.
Source CHDC1
Replication of new changes along this path will be delayed.
This problem should self-correct on the next periodic sync.
REPLICATION LATENCY WARNING
ERROR: Expected notification link is missing.
Source CHDC1
Replication of new changes along this path will be delayed.
This problem should self-correct on the next periodic sync.
REPLICATION LATENCY WARNING
ERROR: Expected notification link is missing.
Source CHDC1
Replication of new changes along this path will be delayed.
This problem should self-correct on the next periodic sync.
......................... BQDC2 passed test Replications
Starting test: RidManager
......................... BQDC2 passed test RidManager
Starting test: Services
......................... BQDC2 passed test Services
Starting test: SystemLog
......................... BQDC2 passed test SystemLog
Starting test: VerifyReferences
......................... BQDC2 passed test VerifyReferences
Running partition tests on : ForestDnsZones
Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
......................... ForestDnsZones passed test CheckSDRefDom
Starting test: CrossRefValidation
......................... ForestDnsZones passed test
CrossRefValidation
Running partition tests on : DomainDnsZones
Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
......................... DomainDnsZones passed test CheckSDRefDom
Starting test: CrossRefValidation
......................... DomainDnsZones passed test
CrossRefValidation
Running partition tests on : Schema
Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
......................... Schema passed test CheckSDRefDom
Starting test: CrossRefValidation
......................... Schema passed test CrossRefValidation
Running partition tests on : Configuration
Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
......................... Configuration passed test CheckSDRefDom
Starting test: CrossRefValidation
......................... Configuration passed test CrossRefValidation
Running partition tests on : bergquistcompany
Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
......................... bergquistcompany passed test CheckSDRefDom
Starting test: CrossRefValidation
......................... bergquistcompany passed test
CrossRefValidation
Running enterprise tests on : bergquistcompany.com
Starting test: LocatorCheck
......................... bergquistcompany.com passed test
LocatorCheck
Starting test: Intersite
......................... bergquistcompany.com passed test Intersite showrepl-BQDC2.docx showreplCHDC1.docx
Testing server: Chanhassen\CHDC1
Starting test: Replications
[Replications Check,CHDC1] A recent replication attempt failed:
From BQDC2 to CHDC1
Naming Context: DC=ForestDnsZones,DC=bergquistcompany,DC=com
The replication generated an error (1908):
Could not find the domain controller for this domain.
The failure occurred at 2013-12-13 11:08:13.
The last success occurred at 2013-11-25 19:44:16.
6345 failures have occurred since the last success.
Kerberos Error.
A KDC was not found to authenticate the call.
Check that sufficient domain controllers are available.
[BQDC2] DsBindWithSpnEx() failed with error -2146892976,
The system detected a possible attempt to compromise security. Please
ensure that you can contact the server that authenticated you..
[Replications Check,CHDC1] A recent replication attempt failed:
From BQDC2 to CHDC1
Naming Context: CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=bergquistcompany,DC=co
m
The replication generated an error (1908):
Could not find the domain controller for this domain.
The failure occurred at 2013-12-13 10:45:36.
The last success occurred at 2013-11-25 19:23:32.
869 failures have occurred since the last success.
Kerberos Error.
A KDC was not found to authenticate the call.
Check that sufficient domain controllers are available.
[Replications Check,CHDC1] A recent replication attempt failed:
From BQDC2 to CHDC1
Naming Context: CN=Configuration,DC=bergquistcompany,DC=com
The replication generated an error (1908):
Could not find the domain controller for this domain.
The failure occurred at 2013-12-13 10:48:45.
The last success occurred at 2013-11-25 19:23:30.
1156 failures have occurred since the last success.
Kerberos Error.
A KDC was not found to authenticate the call.
Check that sufficient domain controllers are available.
[Replications Check,CHDC1] A recent replication attempt failed:
From BQDC2 to CHDC1
Naming Context: DC=BQAsia,DC=bergquistcompany,DC=com
The replication generated an error (1908):
Could not find the domain controller for this domain.
The failure occurred at 2013-12-13 11:07:09.
The last success occurred at 2013-11-25 19:37:37.
1360 failures have occurred since the last success.
Kerberos Error.
A KDC was not found to authenticate the call.
Check that sufficient domain controllers are available.
[Replications Check,CHDC1] A recent replication attempt failed:
From BQDC2 to CHDC1
Naming Context: DC=bergquistcompany,DC=com
The replication generated an error (1908):
Could not find the domain controller for this domain.
The failure occurred at 2013-12-13 11:07:08.
The last success occurred at 2013-11-25 19:41:35.
4186 failures have occurred since the last success.
Kerberos Error.
A KDC was not found to authenticate the call.
Check that sufficient domain controllers are available.
[Replications Check,CHDC1] A recent replication attempt failed:
From BQDC2 to CHDC1
Naming Context: DC=eu,DC=bergquistcompany,DC=com
The replication generated an error (1908):
Could not find the domain controller for this domain.
The failure occurred at 2013-12-13 11:01:17.
The last success occurred at 2013-11-25 19:23:35.
856 failures have occurred since the last success.
Kerberos Error.
A KDC was not found to authenticate the call.
Check that sufficient domain controllers are available.
......................... CHDC1 passed test Replications
Starting test: NCSecDesc
......................... CHDC1 passed test NCSecDesc
Starting test: NetLogons
......................... CHDC1 passed test NetLogons
Starting test: Advertising
......................... CHDC1 passed test Advertising
Starting test: KnowsOfRoleHolders
[BQDC1] DsBindWithSpnEx() failed with error -2146892976,
The system detected a possible attempt to compromise security. Please
ensure that you can contact the server that authenticated you..
Warning: BQDC1 is the Schema Owner, but is not responding to DS RPC Bin
d.
[BQDC1] LDAP bind failed with error 8341,
A directory service error has occurred..
Warning: BQDC1 is the Schema Owner, but is not responding to LDAP Bind.
Warning: BQDC2 is the Domain Owner, but is not responding to DS RPC Bin
d.
[BQDC2] LDAP bind failed with error 8341,
A directory service error has occurred..
Warning: BQDC2 is the Domain Owner, but is not responding to LDAP Bind.
......................... CHDC1 failed test KnowsOfRoleHolders
Starting test: RidManager
......................... CHDC1 passed test RidManager
Starting test: MachineAccount
......................... CHDC1 passed test MachineAccount
Starting test: Services
......................... CHDC1 passed test Services
Starting test: ObjectsReplicated
......................... CHDC1 passed test ObjectsReplicated
Starting test: frssysvol
......................... CHDC1 passed test frssysvol
Starting test: frsevent
......................... CHDC1 passed test frsevent
Starting test: kccevent
An Warning Event occured. EventID: 0x80000785
Time Generated: 12/13/2013 11:03:58
Event String: The attempt to establish a replication link for
An Warning Event occured. EventID: 0x80000786
Time Generated: 12/13/2013 11:03:58
Event String: The attempt to establish a replication link to a
An Warning Event occured. EventID: 0x80000786
Time Generated: 12/13/2013 11:03:59
Event String: The attempt to establish a replication link to a
An Warning Event occured. EventID: 0x80000785
Time Generated: 12/13/2013 11:03:59
Event String: The attempt to establish a replication link for
An Warning Event occured. EventID: 0x80000785
Time Generated: 12/13/2013 11:04:00
Event String: The attempt to establish a replication link for
An Warning Event occured. EventID: 0x80000786
Time Generated: 12/13/2013 11:04:00
Event String: The attempt to establish a replication link to a
......................... CHDC1 failed test kccevent
Starting test: systemlog
......................... CHDC1 passed test systemlog
Starting test: VerifyReferences
......................... CHDC1 passed test VerifyReferences
Running partition tests on : DomainDnsZones
Starting test: CrossRefValidation
......................... DomainDnsZones passed test CrossRefValidation
Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
......................... DomainDnsZones passed test CheckSDRefDom
Running partition tests on : northamerica
Starting test: CrossRefValidation
......................... northamerica passed test CrossRefValidation
Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
......................... northamerica passed test CheckSDRefDom
Running partition tests on : ForestDnsZones
Starting test: CrossRefValidation
......................... ForestDnsZones passed test CrossRefValidation
Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
......................... ForestDnsZones passed test CheckSDRefDom
Running partition tests on : Schema
Starting test: CrossRefValidation
......................... Schema passed test CrossRefValidation
Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
......................... Schema passed test CheckSDRefDom
Running partition tests on : Configuration
Starting test: CrossRefValidation
......................... Configuration passed test CrossRefValidation
Starting test: CheckSDRefDom
......................... Configuration passed test CheckSDRefDom
Running enterprise tests on : bergquistcompany.com
Starting test: Intersite
......................... bergquistcompany.com passed test Intersite
Starting test: FsmoCheck
......................... bergquistcompany.com passed test FsmoCheck