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Leaving WatchGuard Firewalls - Fortinet or Check Point?
We have been a WatchGuard shop for years and years. Recently we have had so many big problems with them we are looking to start migrating away from WatchGuard to another UTM vendor. We have from the small XTM 2 & 3 series for the Small Business and the upper-end 5 series for some top of data-center rack stuff. All together about 20 boxes. With WatchGuard we have really enjoyed the XTM manager and user interface. Because of the familiarity of the product interface and number of boxes we already had we stayed for about a year to long at WatchGuard.
We have considered the following:
Palo Alto Networks - We love them. Read great reviews about them. Just to expensive..
Fortinet - Leaning towards Fortinet. Good reviews, good products, everything seems in-house. I don't like how many switch ports the Fortigate products come with for some reason.
Check Point - Close second to Fortinet. Looking for a reason to put them first.
SonicWALL - Have read better reviews for Fortinet and Check Point.
Ultimately I am looking for somebody that is familiar with WatchGuard, Check Point and Fortinet and can provide qualified feedback. So for the small office all the way to protecting web servers.
We have considered the following:
Palo Alto Networks - We love them. Read great reviews about them. Just to expensive..
Fortinet - Leaning towards Fortinet. Good reviews, good products, everything seems in-house. I don't like how many switch ports the Fortigate products come with for some reason.
Check Point - Close second to Fortinet. Looking for a reason to put them first.
SonicWALL - Have read better reviews for Fortinet and Check Point.
Ultimately I am looking for somebody that is familiar with WatchGuard, Check Point and Fortinet and can provide qualified feedback. So for the small office all the way to protecting web servers.
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Great detailed, informed and well grounded answer. One note is that you are apparently dealing with the bottom of the barrel on support. I assume that you have not purchased gold support or have a competent reseller. I never roll a new release of Watchguard in large environments until testing it in my office and maybe rolling it to some of my more flexible customers. Gold support customers and resellers get only US based engineers with 2-4 hour response time. They are generally treated much more seriously. Thank you very much for your comments.
From my experience, I dont think that you will be any happier with companies like Sonicwall (even though they are Dell owned). I really think that companies like Palo Alto, Juniper or Cisco are going to be your best shot with that true understanding and commitment to enterprise needs.
Good luck.
~Jon
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From my experience, I dont think that you will be any happier with companies like Sonicwall (even though they are Dell owned). I really think that companies like Palo Alto, Juniper or Cisco are going to be your best shot with that true understanding and commitment to enterprise needs.
Good luck.
~Jon
http://jsbusinesssolutions.com
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Because of the frequency of problems and nature of them and the hell I raised we were allowed Gold Support or direct to tier 2.
And thank goodness for that.. No more. What is your operating system, what color is your computer.. Now give me remote access and I am going to do a full TCP dump of your traffic... Don't worry it is secure here... in SalesForce... sigh..
Did you leave our Fortinet on purpose?
And thank goodness for that.. No more. What is your operating system, what color is your computer.. Now give me remote access and I am going to do a full TCP dump of your traffic... Don't worry it is secure here... in SalesForce... sigh..
Did you leave our Fortinet on purpose?
I really think that companies like Palo Alto, Juniper or Cisco are going to be your best shot with that true understanding and commitment to enterprise needs.
Not necessarily except that, of my larger custoers, the ones I mentioned are the ones I've seen most.
Best of luck. I would be interested know know where you end up in the end.
Jon
Best of luck. I would be interested know know where you end up in the end.
Jon
Any update on this?
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None of the comments were quite cohesive enough to provide the detail needed.
Yes, the reports are from 2010 (openly stated), but they are truthful and SonicWALL has only gotten better. ..I can't say the same for the other two. The bias comment is laughable, everything is bias, and they aren't making this stuff up or skewing results ...get to know the products and you'll see the hardline facts.
I would continue down the research path that you are on by reading reviews and opinions (from unbiased sites that dont sell anything), put hard current numbers against each other and ask for input from others as you have done here.
~Jon