ACCESS 2010 - impossible to group controls
Bonjour
With Access 2010 SP2, it is impossible to group control on a form or on a report.
A form with groupped controls coming from Access 2003 lost all the groups.
With very heavy Form or report , it is dramatic !
An when I go back to Access 203 after opening in 2010, all the groups are lost !
It is possible to group n controls together with Access 2010 - I save the form and when i go back into the form, all the groups are lost. (See file)
Thanks for help
Bye
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With Access 2010 SP2, it is impossible to group control on a form or on a report.
A form with groupped controls coming from Access 2003 lost all the groups.
With very heavy Form or report , it is dramatic !
An when I go back to Access 203 after opening in 2010, all the groups are lost !
It is possible to group n controls together with Access 2010 - I save the form and when i go back into the form, all the groups are lost. (See file)
Thanks for help
Bye
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Hi
I don't understand "put new group control on the form" ?
Is it a special control for that ?
That I know is we can group controls temporary but we cannot save it.
Thanks
I don't understand "put new group control on the form" ?
Is it a special control for that ?
That I know is we can group controls temporary but we cannot save it.
Thanks
Now,
This is an Access 2003 file
I have grouped controls on form 'Lotto'
In Access 2013, they do not appear grouped (In A2003, they have a border around them) -- until
A) you are in design view (they do not obey grouping in layout view)
B) you click on a grouped control
Then all controls in the group show a heavy border.
Test the attached sample (form 'Lotto') -- which I know works
Does it behave the same or differently than your production form?
transform-v5.mdb
This is an Access 2003 file
I have grouped controls on form 'Lotto'
In Access 2013, they do not appear grouped (In A2003, they have a border around them) -- until
A) you are in design view (they do not obey grouping in layout view)
B) you click on a grouped control
Then all controls in the group show a heavy border.
Test the attached sample (form 'Lotto') -- which I know works
Does it behave the same or differently than your production form?
transform-v5.mdb
ASKER
I tested on A2010
No grouped controls on Lotto form
If I group 2 controls together, saved, closed and opened it again, I lose grouped controls .
It shows that in A2010, it does not operate .
Do you think that Microsoft has solution ?
Thanks
No grouped controls on Lotto form
If I group 2 controls together, saved, closed and opened it again, I lose grouped controls .
It shows that in A2010, it does not operate .
Do you think that Microsoft has solution ?
Thanks
It does work in Access 2013 and Access 2013 does preserve the grouping done in Access 2003.
I am still investigating.
The short answer from MS if it is a bug will be 'upgrade to 2013'
I am still poking at it, though.
I am still investigating.
The short answer from MS if it is a bug will be 'upgrade to 2013'
I am still poking at it, though.
I have the same behavior with my sample as you do with your production file.
Access 2003 grouping is not respected by Access 2010, and if an object has 2003 grouping, and more grouping is done in 2010, the new grouping is not preserved.
More testing to do.
Create a test file in 2003.
Group nothing at all.
Open it in 2010
Group some controls.
Close and reopen it
Do the groupings persist?
Afterwards,
In the test file, group some controls in Access 2003.
Close and reopen the form
Ungroup the controls.
Close the application
Open in Access 2010
Group some controls
Close and reopen it
Do the groupings persist?
Access 2003 grouping is not respected by Access 2010, and if an object has 2003 grouping, and more grouping is done in 2010, the new grouping is not preserved.
More testing to do.
Create a test file in 2003.
Group nothing at all.
Open it in 2010
Group some controls.
Close and reopen it
Do the groupings persist?
Afterwards,
In the test file, group some controls in Access 2003.
Close and reopen the form
Ungroup the controls.
Close the application
Open in Access 2010
Group some controls
Close and reopen it
Do the groupings persist?
ASKER
ANSWER
More testing to do.
Create a test file in 2003.
Group nothing at all.
Open it in 2010
Group some controls.
Close and reopen it
Do the groupings persist? NO
Afterwards,
In the test file, group some controls in Access 2003.
Close and reopen the form
Ungroup the controls.
Close the application
Open in Access 2010
Group some controls
Close and reopen it
Do the groupings persist? Also NO
A really bug !
Bye
More testing to do.
Create a test file in 2003.
Group nothing at all.
Open it in 2010
Group some controls.
Close and reopen it
Do the groupings persist? NO
Afterwards,
In the test file, group some controls in Access 2003.
Close and reopen the form
Ungroup the controls.
Close the application
Open in Access 2010
Group some controls
Close and reopen it
Do the groupings persist? Also NO
A really bug !
Bye
They do not persist for me either.
I think it really is a bug.
I think you will need to contact Microsoft Support and file a bug report.
If it genuinely is a bug, those are free, although they want a credit card and talk of $245 if it is NOT a bug.
I have no more help to give.
I get the same result as you, fully patched Access 2010 does not see are save control groupings.
Sorry!
I think it really is a bug.
I think you will need to contact Microsoft Support and file a bug report.
If it genuinely is a bug, those are free, although they want a credit card and talk of $245 if it is NOT a bug.
I have no more help to give.
I get the same result as you, fully patched Access 2010 does not see are save control groupings.
Sorry!
ASKER
News to receive from Microsoft to correct this bug
The object becomes unrecoverably corrupt in a very short period.
Do your development in the earliest version of Access that will use the application.
You will save tears and headaches that way.