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Windows 2003 pdc (and gc) crashed, how to get other dc to authenicate network servers
We have a very old windows 2003 network that we are in the process of upgrading. However, our PDC crashed. It also was the GC. Now half of my users and servers can authenticate, but others can't access any network services. The exchange 2003 server we have can't start the exchange services. It gives us a Servier is not Operational error, which I looked up and is related to naming.
We only have one additional dc. I'm going to add another, but for right now, I have to get everyone operational. Can I seize the roles, even though I only have one remaining dc? I read to not seize them to the same server as the gc. Right now, there is no gc. Can I go ahead and seize them, and then add another dc afterwards and make it the GC. Or do I have to have the GC right now? Any advice would be greatly apprectiated.
We only have one additional dc. I'm going to add another, but for right now, I have to get everyone operational. Can I seize the roles, even though I only have one remaining dc? I read to not seize them to the same server as the gc. Right now, there is no gc. Can I go ahead and seize them, and then add another dc afterwards and make it the GC. Or do I have to have the GC right now? Any advice would be greatly apprectiated.
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I should also note that the main issue with authentication and functionality is not having a GC available. The FSMO roles could be offline for a bit and no one would notice unless someone did a task that required one of the roles. The most notable would be changing a user password.
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Thanks, this is all very helpful. Will the fact that the original dc with the roles and the gc crashed affect my ability to make the other dc a gc? I just went into the sites and servers and selected gc for the remaining dc. I can open the users and computers. Is that all I need? I'm still having trouble with my exchange server seeing the domain controller.
No... you can make it a GC without issue... but you also want to seize the roles so the remaining DC can take over as the master for each role.
And AFTER you have the roles and the GC sorted out, and have given enough time for the DC to realize the old machine is no longer there (See the link earlier about metadata cleanup). You'll want to reboot your exchange server so it can re-establish it's connection and start up properly.
On the Exchange server make sure it's DNS is configured correctly and then reboot.
Use the link below which illustrats exactly where to make this change in Sites and Services.
Exchange WILL NOT WORK if your GC is offline. Once you have enabled the additional DC as a GC you will probably need to reboot your Exchange server anyways. Make sure that your Exchange server is only pointing to the additional DC and remove the DNS entry for the old PDC that failed.
Promote DC to GC - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/296882
Will.
Exchange WILL NOT WORK if your GC is offline. Once you have enabled the additional DC as a GC you will probably need to reboot your Exchange server anyways. Make sure that your Exchange server is only pointing to the additional DC and remove the DNS entry for the old PDC that failed.
Promote DC to GC - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/296882
Will.
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I have demoted the old server. However, when we try to log the exchange server on after a reboot, i get the following errors:
I get an event id 1053 and a description of - Windows cannot determine the user or computer name.
I also get a dnsapi error id 11166 which is described as the system not being able to register host (a) resource records (RR) for adapter.
Any ideas?
I get an event id 1053 and a description of - Windows cannot determine the user or computer name.
I also get a dnsapi error id 11166 which is described as the system not being able to register host (a) resource records (RR) for adapter.
Any ideas?
It sounds like it's pointing to the wrong DNS server. Is the working DC a DNS server too?
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No, but I'm thinking of making it one.
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Also, I have a lot of errors pertaining to opening the group policy. When I go into the Domain Security Settings, it says it can't find the network path.
You said you demoted the DC were you able to transfer the FSMO roles to the other DC first?
If the additional DC does have the FSMO roles and it's the only DC left in the environment you need to seize all of the roles to the DC that is still active. Also making this DC a GC as I suggested earlier. Your DC need to be A DNS server as well and have your clients and other server point to it for DNS.
Will.
If the additional DC does have the FSMO roles and it's the only DC left in the environment you need to seize all of the roles to the DC that is still active. Also making this DC a GC as I suggested earlier. Your DC need to be A DNS server as well and have your clients and other server point to it for DNS.
Will.
Will, TOHIT already made the DC a GC, at least according to this post.
TOHIT, do you have any DNS server in the environment or was it just the failed DC? If the failed DC is the only DNS server, then you need to install DNS. This is first priority since so much is dependent on it (Exchange, a lot of aspects of AD, authentication, etc). You then need to make sure all computers are pointed to the DC for DNS.
Once you have a GC (which I believe you already took care of) and a DNS server, that will get you back to 99% functional.
TOHIT, do you have any DNS server in the environment or was it just the failed DC? If the failed DC is the only DNS server, then you need to install DNS. This is first priority since so much is dependent on it (Exchange, a lot of aspects of AD, authentication, etc). You then need to make sure all computers are pointed to the DC for DNS.
Once you have a GC (which I believe you already took care of) and a DNS server, that will get you back to 99% functional.
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Thanks for all the help. I found the main problem was that the dns server we were using temporarily had an incorrect entry for the dc I seized the roles with . One last question. I have now the dc running with the fsmo roles and as a gc, and I set up dns on it. I am now bringing up another dc so that we have some backup. I am also making it another dns server. Should I also also make it a gc? It is a single site, with about 240 users. That will make two dc's, two dns's, and two gc's total.
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Yes, make it a GC.