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ok, so i am building a 2012 sbs essentials server to replace the old 2003 sbs server. wanted to clone both servers and having a prob. right away with acronis cloning the 2012 essentials. it finds the raid 1 drives and the other one i want to clone to and even starts to clone, then fails immediatly with no error message, just says clone aborted. Now i have used acronis for years cloning all types of server/work stations running scsi/raid/ide/sata/etc...not any ssd yet, so i don't know what the prob. could be other than how the ibm think server has the array config. it has one tiny partition and then a large one...but that has never been a prob. before when i had scsi raid 1 config with two partitions running on 2008 64 bit sbs...if acronis is not going to work, what dos type or linux type clone can i use w/o having to buy again.???
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Why are you trying to clone the servers?

Are you following the official documentation for migrating from SBS 2003 to Server 2012 Essentials?  http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj200112.aspx

You definitely want a FULL backup of your source server the SBS 2003 -- but you can do that quite easily with the built-in backup.  There is no need to back up your target Server 2012 Essentials until you have the migration done because if something goes majorly wrong the only thing you can do is start over.

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i try to ALWAYS have a clone. It is better to be safe than sorry...if it won't clone now, it won't clone when i am done with the build...a clone prevents you from having to go through the whole reload, esp. the 2003 server. I want a clone of it, in case ANYTHING does go wrong. I have a complete back up, but of course that will not just lay back down, as a clone would..of course i am going to do the official migration, but still would rather have a clone in the beginning,middle and end. ..

* "chance favors the well prepared"
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As I stated, creating an image backup (or clone as you call it) of your new server will NOT help you the least bit.  The primary reason is that during the migration process you are working with TWO domain controllers -- if you were to restore one of them your Active Directory would be out of sync and you'd have all sorts of problems.

There are ways to do "non-authoritative" restores which would avoid that, but the process of a non-authoritative restore is much more complex than just starting the migration over.

Windows Server 2012's installation is actually from a server image, so the installation itself only takes a few minutes -- less time than it would take to restore an image backup.

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that was not the point, i am aware of that. BUT i would like to have a clone of the server when it's done.... and like i said if it won't clone now, it's not likely that it will clone later.. i can't tell you how many times a clone has saved me... while i realize that initially a clone is not the way to go as it would take to long to restore than to just start over, however once all of the o.s. is built, and all of the apps. loaded that becomes the way to go as it would take way longer to reload,reconfig,everything than to just do a clone and then data restore...

All i was asking was did anyone know why acronis would act this way. AND if anyone knew of another product that could be used. since then i have found hdclone that looks like it might suffice..I really wasn't looking spanking on the in's and outs, just an answer to my orig.question about acronis or other options of cloning...please don't spank people so hard, it's just questions and answers to THOSE ORIGINAL questions..
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Be aware that you do not need third party software to create an image backup of a Server 2012 because that is what the built-in Windows Backup will do for you.

Just run the Windows Backup and you'll have your image.

Jeff
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good for now...
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