Dual boot surface 2 pro 128GB

McSnoogins1
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I'm trying to dual boot my surface pro 2 with kali live linux for pen testing.  I've disabled secure boot in the setup, restarted from recovery in the settings section of windows 8 and clicked the usb option that it detects. It only ever restarts though without booting from the usb drive.  I've tried the usb drive on my normal laptop and it boots fine. The kali image is the latest 64 bit build from the site.
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Please try and press the key combination that brings up the boot menu and select it from there.

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i cant get that to work. do you mean holding volume down while switching on then releasing at the surface logo? ive tried dozens of times and it just boots windows with no menu options. vol up and powering on brings up the "bios" every time though. i have checked that the vol down button does actually work
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http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/support/storage-files-and-folders/boot-surface-pro-from-usb-recovery-device?lc=1031 has two methods for you, the first one does not seem to work with that device according to you.
I would also try a different usb drive.

Another alternative, Install Hyper-V and boot a virtual machine into your KALI ISO.
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I'll try another USB drive first and let you know

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Still not getting anywhere, does anyone know a specific pen drive that has been proven to work for this? I've tried 3 different kingston so far and a generic.  Really don;t want to use virtual.

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I've actually run the installer on the pen drive from windows. It goes through the motions, the restarts and blue screens when i try to boot "Debian" i now have the choice of booting "Debian" which blue screens or "windows 8.1" which thankfully still works

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Any insights as to why it bluescreens?
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Your debian setup has entered the boot loader? Respect, debian. But that would never work, to install it from within windows, so just start msconfig and remove the failing boot entry.

Sorry, I have no access to a surface to give you the name of a working drive, but supposedly, most should boot. "Going virtual" does not hurt, why don't you wanna try it?

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I tried virtual but but couldn't get arpspoof to work with the usb card. I just does nothing but pretends it is.
I've discovered since that my first problem was that I needed to modify my pen to include an EFI folder with some files to get it to boot UEFI.
I can get as far as running the install but it bottles out when installing grub.
I think it wants me to delete the first partition on the hard drive and let it sort everything out (pretty sure i read somewhere that grub wants to be on the first partition of the drive). But I don't want to delete it only to mess up my surface. Really can't be done with setting up my windows install again.
If I delete the first partition will grub install and recognise my windows partition?
I can't remember if I actually tried it but at some point I tried to delete one partition around the start of the drive and it just didn't work.
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Hyper-V doesn't support USB devices other than mouse and keyboard, that's true.
You can never be sure with grub. You should make an image backup (be sure you know how to replay it) and try then.
I got it installed using an edited installer that was changed for EFI booting

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I selected my own answer as the solution because it was the solution

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