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Hi, I need to edit the Self security group for all users on my network. We use a third party programme to email out. I need to enable a few features under the Self security permission group. I have done this several times, but something keeps removing the permissions!!.

I cant find the group to change this globally.
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by:Larry Struckmeyer MVP
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Can you explain what you mean by self security group.  I don't recognize this from SBS, but maybe you have a different language and there is difficulty with translation?  Why not use Exchange to email out, since it is included with SBS.
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by:Coralon
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The Self group is a dynamic group.. What are you trying to change??

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by:Mahesh
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Are you talking about "Self" group that is viewed in user properties \ security tab..

So, there is no way around it: you need to explicitly revoke \ change the SELF permissions from all existing user objects. You can do that with AD Users & Computers, or dsacls.
http://www.minasi.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24429

may be somebody scripting expert can get that automation for you depending upon your requirements

Mahesh
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by:Simon Butler (Sembee)
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Self is a special group. If you need to allow a third party tool to do emailing, then it would usually have its own account and then that account would be granted the permissions. I have never heard of an application requiring changes to the "Self" group.

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It would really help if we knew what you were trying to accomplish?

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by:dlogan83
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Hi, the setting I am trying to change is the  "Self" group that is viewed in user properties \ security tab"

When I allow Send as, Receive as, this seems to be revoked back to nothing eventually for no reason and I have to keep going back and allowing this permission again.
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Simon Butler (Sembee) earned 500 total points
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You shouldn't be trying to adjust the Self Permission.
I have been working with Exchange for over 10 years and this is the first time I have heard of anyone trying to adjust the Self permsision for any reason.

Checking a known working system, permissions on Self only appear if the account is NOT an admin account. If it is, then Self has no permissions. The behaviour you are seeing is what I would expect to see when you try to use an admin account for permissions and Exchange will remove those permissions by design.

Simply put, you should not be using an admin account that is mail enabled.
Therefore I suspect that you are trying to implement a solution provided by the third party to check the self permissions, which is actually incorrect because an admin account is being used.

Simon.
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