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Trust relationship issue with new Win7 Pro desktops w/SBS 2003.

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I have three new Windows 7 Pro desktops... right out of the box and added to the domain.   Everything seemed to be working fine until I did a windows update and rebooted.   Now I'm getting 'The trust relationship between this workstation and the primary domain failed.'   As a few people suggested, I checked the time/date on the SBS Server 2003 and the time/date matches that of the workstations.

I've also deleted the computers from the AD and recreated.   Still same issue.   Suggestions please?    

It's getting late, and I wanna go home!  

Thanking you in advance,
Mich
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by:R. Andrew Koffron
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are the clients using the SBS server as their Primary DNS server?
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by:Micheline Paquette
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Well.... I set them up initially with SBS server as the Primary DNS server until I joined them to the Domain.   Then I set them as obtaining both IP and DNS automatically.
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by:Micheline Paquette
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I had read somewhere that this was the only way to join them.  Do I have to keep them that way?
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by:R. Andrew Koffron
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SBS is best used with all clients using the SBS as DHCP and DNS server,  takes a lot of work to make it effective otherwise.
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by:Micheline Paquette
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So I should 'Obtain the IP address automatically' and then 'Use the following DNS server address:' and use the SBS2003 server IP as the Preferred DNS Server?
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by:Micheline Paquette
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Well I certainly jumped from the frying pan into the fire on this one.   I changed the DNS to point to our SBS2003 server, rebooted and now I get ....

there are currently no logon servers available to service the logon request.   OMGosh...  now what?

Mich
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by:R. Andrew Koffron
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usually the SBS server is the DNS server and the DHCP server.

running the wizards again, may help.
internet connection first than remote connection, than the "change server IP address"  (it'll set everything to the IP you can run it over top a current setup just use the same IP address)
make sure there's no other DHCP server in the network.

both IP and DNS should be obtain automatically usually.

also have to check DNS server that it's listening on all available IPs.
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by:vijaydawda
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Remove from domain and rejoin
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I ended up setting a static IP address for all three workstations with the SBS2003 server as the DNS, and all is working as it should.   In retrospect, I think this particular issue reared it's ugly head when I noticed the SBS2003 server time was off by over 30 minutes and I adjusted the time.    I can't wait to get the Server 2011 ordered and installed.   There will be less problems, right?

Mich
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by:R. Andrew Koffron
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I decommissioned my last SBS2003 server recently, most are sbs2011 now. but I guess it depends how you define "better"
My off the cuff comments on going to SBS 2011
-Load up on Memory.  32GB if you possibly can, it's a memory Hog
-Run install on site don't bother pre-installing.
-Run the Setup exactly the way SBS wizards want to be installed.
-Buy a real security cert.
-Look up the Sharepoint update commands that need to be run manually in advance.
-Do not use a drive larger than 2TB
-run automatic updates in batches of 10 or so, reboot even if it doesn't say you need to.
-If anything goes wrong in the update stage run the PSconfig share point manual update. reboot, test.
-if you can't straighten a problem in 30 minutes, stop smoke it and re-install.

SBS works pretty good right out of the box, the installer and wizards "Usually" do a fine job, but getting past a glitch usually leaves crud you have to live with forever.  So it's better to start over than tweak anything around.
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by:R. Andrew Koffron
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I thought SBS2011 was not for sale anymore.

Read this article several times before you do the change.
it's worked for me perfectly several times.

http://demazter.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/migrate-small-business-server-2003-to-small-business-server-2011/
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by:Micheline Paquette
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I purchased a server from ZT Computers which they sold me with SBS2011.   Unfortunately, I couldn't get it on the Dell servers.....
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by:Micheline Paquette
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Nothing else worked.
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