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Hi Experts,

I need a nic for my host for iscsi.
I have seen this nic ports
The Broadcom 57800 Dual-Port 10Gb DA/SFP+

When I check the picture, I see it is a different port than a RJ45 port.
Can you show me or explain how to connect RJ45 for 10GB/s ?
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Most 10G Ethernet uses fiber.  If you want to use UTP, you need a NIC that supports 10Gbase-T.
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you'll find plenty of cards using rj45 : https://www.google.fr/search?q=10GBASE+network+card
many of them are copper/rj45 based

you'll need cat6 cables and you'll have to keep them reasonably short

also note that they allow 10Gb and not 10GB as per the thread's topic
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Ok nice, when I get this adapter:

10Gbit/s DA/SFP+, can I connect here directly CAT6 cable ?
Or do I need adapters ?
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if the adapter provides rj45 ports, it requires cat6, no adapter

this specific adapter does not provide the port in the description (thanks dell). googling yields incoherent results (apparently SFP+ series is fiber). if it does not look like rj45, then it is fiber.

this seems to fit the bill if you want to go the cat6 way

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/network-adapters/converged-network-adapters/ethernet-x540.html

using an adapter to convert one type to another is most likely a no-go. possibly does not exist, will add latency, will add slowdown, will cumulate the hindrances of both types, will be at least as expensive as buying corresponding cables or NIC... i think it is not the way to go but i have no experience with that.
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...and what about DA ?
What kind of connector is it ?

So when Dell offers this Dual controller it is with fibre ?
But my 10Gbit/s Switch has no fibre connectors, it has RJ45.
So how it goes ?
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connectors are usually written in the specs. if dell does not write them in their specs, i don't have more information than you do. either ask them, or buy hardware provided by a vendor that does provide basic information about what he sells.

additionally there is a number or DA/SPF adapters

this one has "port: 2x ethernet "in the description
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=430-4415

while

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=430-0710
and
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&sku=430-4436

do not

one might assume the first is rj45 and the 2 others are fiber.

i'd personally not buy hardware with uncertain specs and buy a card and cat6 cables from a vendor that clearly writes rj45 and the minimal required cable category in the specs.
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I can't find a 10Gbase-t SFP+ transceiver for that card. You could get a non-Dell SFP+ but then you may discover a compatibility issue.

Another approach is to try a NIC like the Intel X520-T2.  Of course you would want to make sure that it's compatible with your server.
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@donjohnston ;
- do you have a reason to prefer the X-520 over the X-540 ?
- why would a regular PCI-X card NOT be compatible with the author's hardware ?
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by:Don Johnston
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I didn't say it's NOT compatible. Only that that it would be prudent to verify it's compatible before purchasing.
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@don

that was not a sarcastic question. i just thought you might have extra information about the author's server possibly from another thread or you might be aware of a known issue with (dell ?) servers for saying so.

likewise, i suggested the 540 pretty much randomly as it was the first i found in google that clearly had rj45 and cat6 in the specs. i have no idea about the difference between them neither in term of price, capabilities or driver support and since you suggested a different one, i suppose you must have a reason to prefer it.
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I never said your question was sarcastic.

Compatibility can be subject to more than the bus architecture.  

As for the 520 vs. 540, the 520 came up in a google search.  I didn't see your post until after I made my post.
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@don : ok, never mind, no hard feelings. we're not being helpful with this private chat. see you around
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