Windows 8.1 time zone problems

I can't seem to set the Time Zone in Windows 8.1 (64 bit).  I know the places in the UI where you can do this but everytime I try and change from Pacific Time to Central - it doesn't save the change.   It will not get off Pacific Time.  Why is this so hard?   Anybody have any ideas?
chuckster_ehAsked:
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becraigCommented:
Is this your home computer or are you logged into a domain.

Also try rebooting and changing the time in your BIOS.
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Joe Winograd, Fellow&MVEDeveloperCommented:
Try changing it in Control Panel>Date and Time. Regards, Joe
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chuckster_ehAuthor Commented:
The Control Panel has no inputs for setting the timezone, neither does the BIOS
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becraigCommented:
What make / model computer are you using  ?

When you get to control panel select all control panel items.
time.PNG
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Joe Winograd, Fellow&MVEDeveloperCommented:
What happens when you run the Date and Time applet in Control Panel? Mine looks like this:

W8 Control Panel - Date and TimeThis is in W8, not W8.1, but I doubt if it changed in 8.1. Regards, Joe
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chuckster_ehAuthor Commented:
I have tried all the UI inputs including the date time settings and the tzutil command line program.  Nothing changes it.
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becraigCommented:
Can you give the make / model of the computer you are using  ?
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Joe Winograd, Fellow&MVEDeveloperCommented:
To be clear, you're getting the same Date and Time dialog that I posted above — right? If so, what happens when you click the "Change time zone..." button? I get this:

Time Zone SettingsDo you get this dialog?
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chuckster_ehAuthor Commented:
I built it.
Windows 8.1
MSI Motherboard - FM2-A75MA-E35
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chuckster_ehAuthor Commented:
Yes...I get the Central Time option.  I select it and click ok.   The time does not change in the lower right hand part of the screen.   And when I go back in its not changed.  Its back to Pacific Time.
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Joe Winograd, Fellow&MVEDeveloperCommented:
Maybe your local security policy is not allowing you to change time zones. Try this:

Control Panel
Administrative Tools
Local Security Policy
Expand Local Policies
Click User Rights Assignment

In the right pane, you'll see a "Change the time zone" item. Double-click it and add whatever User or Group you want to it. Regards, Joe
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chuckster_ehAuthor Commented:
Unfortunately I don't have any of that.   Its probably because I am on a home edition of Windows 8.1
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becraigCommented:
windows key + r
secpol.msc
local policies
User rights assignments
change time zone in the right column
double click and add your user name.
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chuckster_ehAuthor Commented:
I don't have secpol.msc....windows can't find it.
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becraigCommented:
yeah you said home  :)

Here is an article that might be helpful for you

http://www.reviversoft.com/blog/2012/10/are-you-having-issues-with-your-time-settings-in-windows-8/
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Joe Winograd, Fellow&MVEDeveloperCommented:
Here's another idea. Run the tzutil command elevated. To do that, right-click on:
c:\Windows\System32\tzutil.exe
and select "Run as administrator".
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Joe Winograd, Fellow&MVEDeveloperCommented:
My bad...you need to specify a parameter, such as:

tzutil.exe /s Central Standard Time

So run a command prompt elevated and issue the command above in it. There are numerous ways to get an elevated prompt. One is Start>All Programs>Accessories then right-click on Command Prompt and select "Run as administrator". Regards, Joe
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chuckster_ehAuthor Commented:
I have already tried the tzutil thing already.   I can change it to the nist time but that doesn't help.

I think its some sort of weird permissions thing with my user.  I am an administrator but it seems not to help.
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Joe Winograd, Fellow&MVEDeveloperCommented:
> I have already tried the tzutil thing already

But did you run it in an elevated prompt? That's a very important difference...and it is different from being an administrator. Just because you're an administrator is not the issue. It will take just a minute or two. Open a command prompt via "Run as administrator" as I described in the steps above and then run the tzutil in it.
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chuckster_ehAuthor Commented:
Yep....I did that.
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Joe Winograd, Fellow&MVEDeveloperCommented:
Please post a screenshot of the elevated command prompt window after you run tzutil.
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chuckster_ehAuthor Commented:
Here it is.  There are 2 options in Windows 8.1.  Command Prompt and Command Prompt (Admin)
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Joe Winograd, Fellow&MVEDeveloperCommented:
No screenshots were attached to your post.
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chuckster_ehAuthor Commented:
Sorry....here it is
ss.docx
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chuckster_ehAuthor Commented:
Just to clariy - I did change the time to the "nist" time.  It was set to time.windows.com.   It did update and read in the new time.   But the timezone still will not update.
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Joe Winograd, Fellow&MVEDeveloperCommented:
I'd like to see the results of the tzutil command in that window. As a side comment, it would be helpful if you embed screenshots directly in your post rather than uploading a Word file. That way, members can see it straightaway in your post, and clicking on it will bring up an even larger image in a new tab. As a Word file, folks have to download it and open it (and, of course, need to have software that will handle a DOCX file). As a JPG or PNG file, it will be handled directly in the browser. Here's a quick-read article, How to Embed Screenshots in Posts, that explains the embedding technique. Regards, Joe
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chuckster_ehAuthor Commented:
Here it is.output of tzutil command.
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Joe Winograd, Fellow&MVEDeveloperCommented:
Thanks for embedding the image...and for adding the quotes to the time zone param. :)  I tested that command in my W8 Pro and it worked perfectly...the time in the system tray changed immediately. I am stumped at this point. I'll try to come up with more ideas, but right now I don't have any.
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chuckster_ehAuthor Commented:
I think I am going to try Microsoft support.   Thanks.
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Joe Winograd, Fellow&MVEDeveloperCommented:
Sounds like a good idea. If you don't mind, please post back here with any progress that you make. This is a curious one!
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Andrew WrightIT CoordinatorCommented:
Hi Chuckster

You have already had lots of help here and I may be too late to add my two pennies but I have found a link that may help you.

How to change the time in three different ways (Windows 8 & 8.1

Hope this helps.
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chuckster_ehAuthor Commented:
I spent 1 hour and 20 minutes on the phone with Microsoft yesterday and they have another engineer calling me back tonight.   I foresee a re-install coming my way.  

I am going to close this but award out points.
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Joe Winograd, Fellow&MVEDeveloperCommented:
Ouch! I feel your pain on this one. I'm curious to see what MS comes up with. Thanks for the update. Regards, Joe
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