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Hello hope everyone is well.

I have a 2008R2 ISO image for a workstation 9 guest VM that I used on my Windows 7 HDD laptop with no issues

I then purchased a Windows 8 laptop with SSD using the same ISO and am having problems during install saying all kinds of files are missing. Every install is usually a different file and says to run chkdsk on the virtual disk.

Does anyone know if this happens to be an issue with SSD hosts? I can't figure out why the 2008 guest isn't installing. I also believe I had an issue with 2003 although it did install.

Thanks again EE.
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by:John Hurst
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I assume when you say server image, you mean you have a server (virtual or real) with workstations attached. Is this true?

Then Windows 8 without an identifier is Windows 8 Home and is not for business. You need Windows 8.1 Pro to connect in. Do you have Home or Pro?
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by:Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)
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Did you check the ISO, is not corrupted ?

Use a MD5 checksum, to check the MD5 checksum is the same on the Windows 7 and Windows 8 host.
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Thanks John, I have a real laptop with workstation 10 running and a guest VM installed via ISO image. The iso image is server 2008R2.

I will check the md5 hash
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And you have 9 Windows 7 real machines connected to it.

So also check which Windows 8.
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You might also try disconnecting one or two Seven machines while trying to connect the Windows 8 machine.
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Ok I ran it straight from the CD on the host instead of the iso file and it worked. I'm pretty sure this has something to do with SSD drive on the host. Maybe it's too fast for the application?
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by:John Hurst
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Once an SSD has loaded, speed should not make a difference (I should not think so).

So maybe it was a corrupt image.
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Edit, it copied everything but doesn't boot up. Not sure
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It worked when I ripped the HDD drive out of my laptop that contains the ISO file and connected it via USB to my SSD laptop and installed the guest VM using the iso on the HDD drive. I even copied it again directly from the HDD to the SDD and still no luck. It only works when running directly off the SSD.

Is my new laptop broken? What could be causing this?
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edit, I meant directly off the HDD on that last part
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I get a little bit confused by all your drive operations.

What is VMware Workstation 10 running on?  It was the real laptop. If not that, what have you done.

You appear to be changing too many variables at once to troubleshoot.
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Ok the hashes completely matched.

So I guess the question is why does the iso file not work from a SSD drive but does on a HDD?

Could my SSD drive be broken? It boots fine. Are their some low level SSD diagnostics I can check?
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What ISO files are not working where.

VMware Workstation is an install not an ISO file. The Server guest is a VMDK file, not an ISO file.

A properly installed Hard drive and a properly installed SSD drive should work the same.

How are you switching installations so quickly.
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John,

Let me explain again. I have a SSD drive laptop with Workstation 10. It fails to create a guest VM when installing from iso on my desktop. However, that same iso when copied to a HDD actually worked just now.

So the question is why can't I create Microsoft Server 2008R2 from an iso on a SSD disk? Is there any low level file operations I can test with SSD disk? I was able to boot Netapp simulator, 2003 and vSphere ESXi.
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That is helpful. Thank you. The only thing I can think of is that the SSD has a problem and cannot work with the big ISO file required to make a virtual machine in the portion of the SSD being used for the ISO file. I cannot think of another reason.
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That's weird. To test VM to SSD compatibility I created a guest with the pre-create hard drive option and the install went fine using the iso on the SSD drive.

So I'm wondering if SSD is so fast that VMware could not increase the size as needed when thin provisioned?

Or it could still be my drive being gay.
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I wonder if VMware is aware of this or if it's unique to combination of hardware/software and operations I'm performing. If I could recreate this on another SSD laptop then I'd imagine it's a VMware problem.
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I do not think it is a VMware issue. I have used Workstation from V1 to V10 and all versions in between. Never had this issue ever.

I cannot say for sure it is not a speed issue with the SSD but it seems hard to imagine.

Or it could still be my drive being gay.   <-- That is what I would think but again I cannot be certain.
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I guess put another way, VMware is just reading a disk. The disk read is the same. So it comes in fast and then the next record is read.

If the SSD was too fast for VMware, probably a whole lot of applications would have the same issue.

If I could recreate this on another SSD laptop then I'd imagine it's a VMware problem.

Big test but it would be more conclusive.
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I'll run a SSD diagnostic on my disk and see if it finds anything.
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Diagnostics from two free vendors showed OK for all it's SSD checks. Anyways, closing thread
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