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A client currently has SERVER 2003 running Terminal Services with SBS 2011 as the domain controller. I want to get him off SERVER 2003 for everything except their accounting system due to the OS age. The accounting system will not run on a newer OS and would require 10's of thousands of $$ to upgrade - not in the cards now.
What do I need in the way of CALs for SERVER 2012R2 and RDS? I know I need RDS CALs. Do I also need SERVER CALs to simply connect to the server to then run RDS? I have a vague recollection of needing both types of CALs.
What do I need in the way of CALs for SERVER 2012R2 and RDS? I know I need RDS CALs. Do I also need SERVER CALs to simply connect to the server to then run RDS? I have a vague recollection of needing both types of CALs.
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if not mistaken ms will give you 5 cal for free. if depend on the package you bought from your vendor.
@tankergoblin Yes and no. Many of the Microsoft Server licenses include a small number of CALs. If you're buying retail or OEM licensing anyway. 5 CALs is common, but the number varies with different products/editions.
(Windows XP Pro implicitly included a licensing for accessing 2003 Term Server, but later versions of Windows desktop OS's do NOT include any TS/RDS client access licensing.*)
The "included" RDS/TS CALs were with Windows 2000 Pro. In 2003 and XP (and later) you were required to purchase CALs for all systems.
Gah, my second licensing gaff in as many days. At least with this one I was only half wrong--I had research it again to satisfy myself. The "included" TS license was in the server side of NT 4.0 and Win2000. So a Windows 2000 Pro or XP Pro desktop could access a 2000 TS without an additional license.
Lee is right about Server 2003 TS though, it always required purchasing a CAL. (With the semi-exception being a temporary offer from Microsoft for a free 2003 TS CAL for copies of XP purchases prior to the release of Server 2003.)
But I'm getting off topic of the original post, so I digress.
Lee is right about Server 2003 TS though, it always required purchasing a CAL. (With the semi-exception being a temporary offer from Microsoft for a free 2003 TS CAL for copies of XP purchases prior to the release of Server 2003.)
But I'm getting off topic of the original post, so I digress.
All of the OS client talking above are out of date and i think MS does not support on the update anymore. Better use win7 and above.
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Environment is a mixed bag of PCs and thin clients. Current have 15 CALs for 2003 and 2011 which is sufficient. So I guess I need 15 2012 device CALs and 15 RDS CALs for 2012?
If your users ONLY connect from the office, then that's fine. If they EVER connect remotely - to access a file, get e-mail, etc., then you need USER CALs otherwise, you'd need device CALs for their remote devices and possibly cell phones and tablets. While the pricing structure has changed on CALs, it's USUALLY better to be purchasing USER CALs and assigning them to HUMAN BEINGS (not accounts - user CALs are administratively assigned to people and not accounts).
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I think it's about time for this:
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