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Where do we go from here - Access 2010 the last full version for the traditional desktop

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The points for this question will probably be given to either Jack Leach,  Joe Anderson, or  Jim Dettman for the great job they did on this  Question .
All opinions are invited.

The Question:
I agree with Jim's statement below - so if Access 2010 is the end of good desktop apps for Access -
   * What tool are people going to now.
   * What's the best way to learn the tool you recommend considering you have been programming Access VBA with SQL Server backend for many years?

Jim Dettman said in an answer "I would consider A2010 the last full version for the traditional desktop side"

Thanks in advance.
LJG
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ste5anSenior DeveloperCommented:
D'oh? Access 2013 supports still the desktop. The only difference is the missing Upsizing Wiziard.. ;) And for Web Apps: They are an add-on.. like .adp.
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MontoyaProcess Improvement MgrCommented:
FileMaker is a really nice solution. Easy to use and with the addition of FileMaker Go, moving solutions to IPAD/Iphone, etc... is a breeze. It has its limits, as those everything else.

There's also a new player out there.. http://www.kexi-project.org/
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Jim Dettman (Microsoft MVP/ EE MVE)PresidentCommented:
I made the comment that I consider A2010 to be the last "full" desktop version reason being a number of long standing features were removed (Replication, ADP's, DBF support, command bar's, etc) and since the focus on the web, nothing new has been done on the desktop side.

 From my viewpoint, only things that make it easier for end users to do things have been added on the desktop side, and it's all things that developers have been doing for years (attachments, MVF's, PDF support, etc).  Access itself and ACE have really not advanced at all in terms of capabilities (if you don't consider the web).  For example, long standing developer requests, such more PEMs with the screen object have not been done.

Microsoft's focus since 2007 has clearly been on the web, and I doubt they'll go anywhere else at this point.

My .02,
Jim.
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ste5anSenior DeveloperCommented:
Okay, I see. The web focus is correct. Another focus was to attract more information workers to Access. Clearly out of focus was the entire hard-core developer and programmer bunch.
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Jim Dettman (Microsoft MVP/ EE MVE)PresidentCommented:
I'll add a little more and make sure the questions here are answered, which are different than what was asked in the other thread.

<<  * What tool are people going to now.>>

  Many Access developers have moved to .Net.  Alpha 5 is another popular choice.   But let me add that Access Desktop Databases are certainly not dead yet.  Although we as developers haven't gotten any new features, Access will be usable as a development tool for some time to come.   I expect to retire in ten years still doing Access work.

<<  * What's the best way to learn the tool you recommend considering you have been programming Access VBA with SQL Server backend for many years?>>

  I would be looking at some form of .Net coupled with a framework, such as Dev Express.

Jim.
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LJGAuthor Commented:
Thanks Jim!
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