Multiple SQL Instances

We have a client with one SQL Server 2012 license running an Active/Passive cluster. the server is running a few databases (about 20 mostly Sharepoint, Citrix PVS, Citrix XenAPP datastore etc.)

We have been told by a 3rd party that we should Create a second Instance on the same box and move our AX 2012 Databases to it (that its "critical"), however were not seeing any real issues that suggest any problem with the database server. What metrics can we monitor to ascertain whether this there are any issues that really would benefit from a separate instance.

We are aware that its "Best Practice" that's not what i am asking, I'm simply asking what performance indicators would identify a need for this.

Aside from memory isolation and a separate TempDB (were not suffering from much TempDB contention), what performance benefits does it provide?
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Kyle AbrahamsSenior .Net DeveloperCommented:
Another point in favor of switching would be security.  You could have 2 SA accounts and have 2 different teams managing each instance (eg: 1 for the cluster and 1 for the new critical cluster).

If you're not running into performance issues though and if the above point isn't really that important I don't see a reason to switch.

Can the 3rd party provide any concrete reasons other than citing it's a best practice?
graememutchAuthor Commented:
Hi Kyle, yeah I'm strictly looking at this from a performance point of view.

They haven't provided any performance reasons just hypothetical benefits i.e. memory management. I've got a consultation with their MS contact next week and I'm looking for some performance metrics to back up my argument as the client is now putting pressure on us that we havent adequately specced the SQL solution.

Am i right in saying that if there's no TempDB contention then memory is the only possible issue? Is there a way to analyze memory utilization within the Instance eg to show that nothing is waiting for memory, monitor memory grants pending? would that be enough?
Kyle AbrahamsSenior .Net DeveloperCommented:
Everything I'm reading says it depends.  TempDB contention is certainly a concern, and I could see HD I/O also being a concern but that can be alleviated by putting different databases on different disks.

As some ammunition you can say that having multiple instances can create CPU contention . . . which is much more serious than memory management issues.

There is more memory consumption when you have multiple instances as each binary needs to be loaded in to RAM.

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graememutchAuthor Commented:
Yeah other databases have been spread around so that disk performance is within Microsoft's recommendations. and as you say this can all be done without a new SQL instance.

Yeah they initially asked for a separate server but for licensing reasons that was cost prohibitive, they're now saying that a separate SQL instance is essentially the same which it clearly isn't.
Damon ReptonOwner\DirectorCommented:

Of course Microsoft best practice does say Dynamics AX should be on a dedicated SQL Server and not shared.

Only reason I can only have another instance could be

but if it was me I would do the following:

Performance Analyser for Dynamics 1.20 (DynamicsPerf)

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Installation Guide

1.      Performance Analyzer for Microsoft Dynamics 1.20 Deployment Guide Core Installation: 

2.      Performance Analyzer for Microsoft Dynamics 1.20 Deployment Guide Dynamics AX Installation 

Windows Performance Monitor

Performance Monitor provides a visual display of built-in Windows performance counters, either in real time or as a way to review historical data. You can add performance counters to Performance Monitor by dragging and dropping, or by creating custom Data Collector Sets. It features multiple graph views that enable you to visually review performance log data. You can create custom views in Performance Monitor that can be exported as Data Collector Sets for use with performance and logging features.

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•      Click Start , click in the Start Search box, type perfmon , and press ENTER.

Performance Analysis of Logs (PAL)

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•      Creates an HTML based report for ease of copy/pasting into other applications.
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from these tools you will see any issues
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