Can't seem to install Oracle Designer / Developer, "wrong OS"

I have a good version of Oracle (OraDb11g_home1 [11.2.0.1.0] - on Windows 7 Enterprise SP 1), plus I have Sql Developer, everything works fine. But I haven't been able to install Oracle Designer or Developer.

When trying Oracle Designer I got "wrong OS version", so ???
Oracle Designer error
So then I saw in the Readme file that I need to load Oracle Developer, per this:
If you do not have an existing Oracle Designer 10gR2 release on your machine, you must first install the certified version of Oracle Developer Suite 10gR2 (10.1.2.0.2) and then proceed for upgrading repository.
 
So I downloadedOracle Developer Suite, and when attempting to install I get a similar message . . .
Using paramFile: E:\app\Disk1 - Oracle Developer\install\oraparam.ini
Checking installer requirements...
Checking operating system version: must be 5.0, 5.1 or 5.2.    Actual 6.1 Failed <<<<
Exiting Oracle Universal Installer, log for this session can be found at C:\Users\Stephen\AppData\Local\Temp\OraInstall2014-08-02_08-50-57AM\installActions2014-08-02_08-50-57AM.log
Please press Enter to exit...

 
I don't understand the error . . . please advise.
Gadsden ConsultingIT SpecialistAsked:
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Gadsden ConsultingIT SpecialistAuthor Commented:
I did some research on this and added "6.1" to the oraparm.ini file, but then I got this error:
Oracle Developer error
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johnsoneSenior Oracle DBACommented:
When you run the installer, you can try supplying the -ignoreSysPrereqs parameter to the installer.  That should still tell you about the failed checks, but run the install anyway.
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Gadsden ConsultingIT SpecialistAuthor Commented:
Johnsone,

are you referring to installing from the command window ?

so like c:\setup.exe -ignoreSysPrereqs ?

Thanks.
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johnsoneSenior Oracle DBACommented:
Yes.  Typically the Oracle installers take that, but I haven't tried it with Designer specifically.

Be aware that even though the install may work, since it is an unsupported/untested OS, the application may not actually run correctly.
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Gadsden ConsultingIT SpecialistAuthor Commented:
ok, I'll give the DOS command a try, I earlier had just clicked on the "setup" file in the install directory.

So Oracle Developer doesn't work on Windows 7 Enterprise ?  I know that Oracle Designer is past it's shelf life, but it requires Oracle Developer. The Oracle Developer page says that it's "being made available only to provide access to Oracle Designer..

So maybe I'm out of luck ? I need to learn Oracle Designer for a project, and then need Oracle Developer to load Oracle Designer . . .

Beyond that, I would probably be looking at JDeveloper, Data Integrator, and Golden Gate - all of which are new to me.
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
run the compatibility wizard.. settings that work are windows vista, additional permissions (run as administrator)

I installed it on Windows Server 2012R2 (I had to hit continue a few times)
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
Program Compatibility Troubleshooter Publisher details

Issues found
Incompatible ProgramIncompatible Program
setup is incompatible. Fixed Fixed
Fix program setup Completed
 

Issues found Detection details

6 Incompatible Program Fixed Fixed
 
setup is incompatible.
Fix program setup Completed
 
Provides steps to fix the incompatible program.
InformationalCompatibility Mode
Compabitiliy modes applied:
Windows Vista (Service Pack 2)
Run as administrator
User verification: Fix worked
 
 
 

Detection details Expand

Collection information
Computer Name:  ALPHA
Windows Version: 6.3
Architecture: x64
Time: Saturday, August 2, 2014 11:15:03 AM

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Program Compatibility Troubleshooter
Find and fix problems with running older programs on this version of Windows.
Package Version: 1.5
Publisher: Microsoft Windows
Program Compatibility Troubleshooter
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Package Version: 1.0
Publisher: Microsoft Corporation
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Gadsden ConsultingIT SpecialistAuthor Commented:
David,

thank you for the info. I'll review and try again this afternoon
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Gadsden ConsultingIT SpecialistAuthor Commented:
johnsone, I tried the -ignoreSysPrereqs, but got the same error:
install error
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Gadsden ConsultingIT SpecialistAuthor Commented:
David,

for the Compatibility Wizard, I don't see any Oracle programs listed (other than Universal Installer, but that works).

I don't quite follow your log, what does that refer to ?

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I have to conclude that I'm sunk - my machine is good, as it runs Windows 7 Enterprise, it has Oracle d.b. ((OraDb11g_home1 [11.2.0.1.0] ), also Sql Developer works, it also has MS Sql Server 2012, Visual Studio 2010.

I need to learn Sql Designer for a project, so I'll have to try online, tutorials, etc. But that kind of sucks.

I'll also try JDeveloper and maybe a few other things.
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
right click on setup.exe and select troubleshoot compatibility

http://screencast.com/t/OAy1nqOqt3Hr
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Gadsden ConsultingIT SpecialistAuthor Commented:
David, thanks for the video. Looks like it's incompatible, see attached . . .

I know Sql Developer / Designer is being phased out, but it seems odd I can't install it, having already installed Oracle and Sql Developer.
Local-Diagnostics-733862231-20.pdf
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johnsoneSenior Oracle DBACommented:
According to an earlier post, you had modified the oraparm.ini file.  Did you undo that modification?  I know that the ignore may not work, but you shouldn't see a message like that.
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Gadsden ConsultingIT SpecialistAuthor Commented:
johnsone, I just now un-did the modification, same results - compatability program says "incompatible", plus I get the "Abnormal Termination" message . . .
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Gadsden ConsultingIT SpecialistAuthor Commented:
I've kind of given up on getting Oracle Developer / Designer installed . . . so I'll have to prepare for the project with demo's / tutorials, etc.

JDeveloper is right around the corner though, so I'm going to install that to a) see if I can install it, b) try to get up to speed on it.
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Gadsden ConsultingIT SpecialistAuthor Commented:
Got it to work !!!!!!!!!! I did some research and found this video which did the trick !  The keys were
- add Windows 6.1 to oraparm.in file
- check properties on setup.exe to run for "Windows XP (Service Pack 2)
      -- so it was a compatability issue, as David discussed
- change Virtual Memory / Paging File Size to 2000 / 8000
     -- although I don't think this really made a difference, because now that I look at it, I changed these parameters on C:\ drive, but I installed it on E:\ drive.

So I see Oracle Forms Builder, Sql Plus for Windows, JDeveloper 10g, Designer, and Reports Builder.

I have other questions but I'll post separately.
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found the solution online.
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