Use server 2012 from within a virtual infrastructure

Hi all,

I'm attempting to update my server 2008 MCSA to 2012 but I need to deploy 2012 server for my study. I have a powerful laptop with 16gb of memory which I have deployed VMware workstation and from here I have built labs based around esxi free license with server 2008 but from what I understand I cannot deploy server 2012 in VMware workstation? Does anyone have any idea on how I can achieve this? My laptop is running windows 8.
Many thanks
Jason
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Cliff GaliherCommented:
If you are running windows 8, hyper-v is free and ready for exactly this use. Just enable it through add/remove programs.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
You can deploy Windows 2012 in VMware Workstation.

What is the issue and your error message?
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Mr TorturSystem EngineerCommented:
Hi Jason,

Windows 2012 guest OS is officially supported since VMware Workstation 9.0.
And 2012R2 support was added in Workstation 10.0
What is your VMware Worstation version?

Mr Tortur
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Emmanuel AdebayoGlobal Windows Infrastructure Engineer - ConsultantCommented:
Hi,

Do you have Hyper-V enabled on your laptop? If not follow the step by step process below

http://www.giveandtake638.com/it-virtualization/install-enable-hyper-v-virtualization-windows-8

Then you can set up Windows 2012 R for your training. I have done this several times and it works.

Let me know if there is any issue.
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Jason ThomasAuthor Commented:
Hi all and many thanks. If I enable hyperv on the laptop and install windows 2012 can I then install a virtual environment from the server 2012? Ie. Install hyperv on the 2012 virtual server and then deploy VMs within that?
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Cliff GaliherCommented:
No. Stacking virtualization platforms is never a good idea. Even if you use different brands. If you need to study hyper-v on 2012 specifically, you'll need to install it on bare metal. Not in vmware or a within another hyper-v vm.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
VMware Workstation can NEST Hypervisors! (Hyper-V cannot!).

If you also enable Hyper-V on your laptop, it's not compatible with VMware Workstation, so you can ONLY run either

Hyper-V or VMware Workstation, at one time....

If you install VMware Workstation, you can use it to nest ESXi and Windows 2012 R2 with Hyper-V enabled if you wish, this is completely acceptable for a LAB and Training, and many of us do it!

Not suitable for Production, but Production, Lab and Training are different!
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Jason ThomasAuthor Commented:
Hi Andrew many thanks. Can I launch 2012 vm's inside esxi on workstation 9?
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Mr TorturSystem EngineerCommented:
Hi all,

also I agree with Andrew that you CAN nest, hypervisors, also I think that on a performance side, it would be pretty bad on a laptop, even a fast one. Maybe with a consequent SSD... but I don't see the point of nesting here except curiosity.
Because finally you will have your 2012 vm in an ESXi in a VMware Workstation in your Windows 8 on your laptop... it makes a lot of software layers on a single little hardware don't you think?
Why not creating your 2012 and vm testing environment directly in Workstation?
It is my think and advice, but everyone make what he wants..
Mr Tortur
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Jason ThomasAuthor Commented:
Can anyone confirm for sure that I cannot deploy a 2012 vm inside vm workstation9 and that I'll need to spend cash for version 10?
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Mr TorturSystem EngineerCommented:
Hi again,
below is an url for vmware guest OS compatibility guide :
http://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php?deviceCategory=software

select "workstation" as product family, version 9 ("WS9.0") as release version and "Windows 2012" as OS family name.

You'll see that windows 2012 is supported.
You'll see also if you check version 10.0 that it supports 2012 AND 2012R2 too.
But let anyone else confirm that if you want. Bye.
Mr Tortur
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Jason ThomasAuthor Commented:
Hi all, I have my answers amongst all of them. I'll take a proper look when I get a bit more time a divvy up the points. Thank you to everyone.
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Andrew Hancock (VMware vExpert / EE MVE^2)VMware and Virtualization ConsultantCommented:
Hi Andrew many thanks. Can I launch 2012 vm's inside esxi on workstation 9?

Yes, VMware Workstation 8, 9 and 10!
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compdigit44Commented:
I am running VMware workstation 10 in my test lab running ESXi 5.5 an Windows 2012 R2 VM 's without issue!!!!!!
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Jason ThomasAuthor Commented:
Hi all. sorry for late feedback. I hope everyone is happy with the points split.
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