Citrix XenServer Install

I have Downloaded CItrix Xendesktop /Xenapp as Well as XenServer.
However when I extracted then opened the iso file, I can see XenCenter.msi but not Xenserver.
I went ahead and installed XenCenter, but I believe I will need to install Xenserver inside XenCenter then Xedesktop inside Xenserver ?

I could be wrong, I wanted to install the components above in my LAB, I have window 8 laptop.
Any help will be very appreciated

Thank you
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Mohammed KhawajaManager - Infrastructure:  Information TechnologyCommented:
XenServer is a hypervisor just like VMware ESXi.  You need to burn the ISO file to a bootable CD/DVD, boot from it and it will install XenServer.  The MSI file you saw is the XenServer Management software which you can install in Windows to manage your XenServer.
jskfanAuthor Commented:
I can install VMware ESXi in VMware workstation using ISO file, burning it to DVD.
 How can I do that with Xenserver.

Tony JLead Technical ArchitectCommented:
I have, previously, installed both XenServer and Hyper-V into VMWare workstation by simply choosing VMWare ESXi as the guest OS when prompted.

You should then be able to mount the ISO and install as required. However, I might add that I haven't done this for some time now so cannot guarantee it'll work with whichever versions you're running.
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Looking at your setup, you don;t need Xenserver at all. As Mohammed said XenServer is the same as VMWare or Windows Hyper_v. It's a free to use Hypervisor to be installed on fysical hardware. I would never suggest installing Xenserver into VMWare workstation, not even as a test.

These days you can install Xenserver on almost any PC if it has VT activated.

XenCenter is the tool that is used to control XenServer, it is only needed if you use XenServer and it's the equivalent of the VSphere client in VMWare terms (or server manager in Windows terms).

Your XenApp application has nothing to do with the other products. Citrix gave back XenServer and Center to the community as a free to use hypervisor platform whereas XenApp is the software they are actually selling now.

XenApp is what used to be called Presentation Server and (at this point) is pretty much all you need to implement Citrix. Both others are optional. Citrix doesn't mind what hypervisor you are using, XenApp works on VMWare, Hyper-V and XenServer.
jskfanAuthor Commented:
I managed to install Xenserver on VM Wrkstation. I am not sure why it is rebooting over and over again...
jskfanAuthor Commented:
I created a VM machine in VMworkstation, I chose as operating System : Other 64
then I pointed CD/DVD to the location of Xenserver ISO file. It booted and in went through kind of Linux wizard till it was completely installed.

However now when I power on the Xenserver VM, it will go in circle, booting and rebooting non stop
jskfanAuthor Commented:
I re-installed it and chose VMware ESXi as the operating far it looks like it is going fine....I am not done with the install yet..
You do now that after you installed XenServer you now actually need to create VM's in Xenserver on a virtual Xenserver? I'm not quite sure how fast your machine is but my guess is that performance will be heavily degraded.

I also think stability will be an issue in the long run. You don't have a spare machine to do this with??
Anyways. If you would like to install XenApp/Desktop on a machine it first needs Windows on it, after that the installation is quite straight forward.
Tony JLead Technical ArchitectCommented:
rhandels: I think you're getting hung up about running nested VM's. There is definitely a use case for this: in the past, for example, I've carried around an entire demonstration environment on my laptop. Providing you have the resources for what you're trying to do, there will be no long term stability issues.

And when you think about it, apart from the hardware abstraction, there's no real difference between a virtual machine and an old desktop - neither are server hardware; neither are likely to utilise SAS or RAID for example and if anything happens to the test rig, the files can be copied to another environment easily. One thing I do agree on though is that whilst fine for a test enviroment it most certainly isn't production-ready.

jskfan: I did say to choose VMware ESXi...Once you have installed XenServer, you need to install XenCenter on a Windows machine somewhere. That can be the same machine you're running VMware Workstation on.

Once you have done that, you connect XenCenter to the XenServer, copy the ISO for Windows to the ISO store and create a new Virtual Guest.

From there, you can log into it as you would a physical one - via RDP or the console on XenCenter and configure your XenApp and/or XenDesktop.

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jskfanAuthor Commented:
Thank you Guys!
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