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Error message when Windows 95 Client logs on to Windows Server 2012 Domain

8 years ago when installing our new SBS2003 server we had troubles getting our Windows 95 machines to authenticate. This was resolved when I found the Security policy setting “Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local Policies\Security Options\Microsoft network server: Digitally sign communications (always)“ which needed to be set to Disabled. Now replaced the SBS2003 server with a new MS 2012 Essentials server and finding the issue has returned. I easily found the equivalent security setting in the GPO and set this to disabled but on attempting to login to the 2012 domain from the Win95 pcs we get the message “Microsoft networking: The domain password you supplied is not correct or access to your logon sever has been denied.” I think from memory that was the same message I got with the 2003 server before I disabled that security option. I tested the logon from a Win 7 pc ok just to ensure I have the password correct.
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John HurstBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
Error message when Windows 95 Client logs on to Windows Server 2012 Domain

Of course. You cannot do this. No way. Windows 95 is gone decades ago and will not log on to Server 2012.
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Seth SimmonsSr. Systems AdministratorCommented:
WHY are you running windows 95?
19 years and 1 day after it's release...time to move on and upgrade
been out of extended support nearly 13 years; microsoft wouldn't make windows 2012 be that backward compatible
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David Johnson, CD, MVPOwnerCommented:
have you installed wins on the server?
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John HurstBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
I do not think that will help.

I have a Windows 95 machine here. It will log into XP. It will not log into Vista or Windows 7 or Windows 8. I adjusted NTLM permissions (registry change) and was able to map from Windows 7 into Windows 95, but no chance for going the other way. It is just not possible.
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Spike99On-Site IT TechnicianCommented:
MS says that in order to connect to Server 2003, they do recommend updating the OS. If that's not possible, they say to install the latest active directory client. See this article:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/811497

To get the latest Domain Services client (DSclient) for 95, you have to have a Windows 2000 server installation cd, look in the  \CLIENTS\WIN9x directory.

Here's a blog posting with more information about that:
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/dsclientexe-connects-windows-9x-nt-pcs-to-active-directory/

I don't know if this will help you connect to 2012 from Windows 95, but if the DSClient isn't already installed, installing that couldn't hurt...
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John HurstBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
The author is trying to connect Win 95 to Server 2012 (not 2003) and there is no way that will work.

@laurencoull  - You simply have to give up Windows 95. What you want to do will not work now or in the future.
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laurencoullAuthor Commented:
Appreciate all comments but just before I give up, one last throw of the dice:
Had a go at following this:
http://redmondmag.com/articles/2014/05/16/network-performance-problems.aspx
which looked promising, but the bit where it says "Keep in mind that there will probably be additional group policies that need to be modified. At the very least, you will probably have to modify the Domain Controller Security Policy. You may also have to modify any other security policies that you are using" is a bit vague: while I probably am wasting my time, any hints as to which policies to try modifying?
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John HurstBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
There is nothing in that article that will help Windows 95 log into Server 2012.
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Seth SimmonsSr. Systems AdministratorCommented:
any hints as to which policies to try modifying?

it won't work...most policies state it requires at least 2000 or XP which requires a domain that windows 95 doesn't support
windows 95 was before the days of active directory thus does not apply
security communications have been enhanced with newer server operating systems so older windows versions of that era won't work with it
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John HurstBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
What are you trying to run in Windows 95? and why not replace it with something newer? Anything I might have run 2 decades ago has got newer replacements that work in modern systems.
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John HurstBusiness Consultant (Owner)Commented:
@laurencoull  - Thank you for closing out. Sorry there is no answer, but Windows 95 is just so long ago.
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