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I have two servers that need to be backed up.

Windows 2012 Server 1 - Domain Controller - file server
Windows 2012 Server 2 - File server - SQL 2012

Can anyone help me as to what sort of licenses I would need?   Symantec mentioned that I have to have two core licenses and one SQL Agent.   Reseller is stating that I just need one core license and SQL agent; backup the server 1, server 2 and SQL databases from Server 1 itself and don't need 2nd core license.

Could someone help me with this scenario?   Any assistance will be highly appreciated.   Thanks.
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by:SelfGovern
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Well, if you have to have Backup Exec, one of them is probably right, or else, there's a third possible solution.

However, if you are open to other backup applications, you might consider HP's Data Protector, which will require one Cell Manager and one On-line Extension for the SQL Server system (#2)  (this includes one tape drive license; if you backup to disk you can purchase target TB licensing).  See the quickspecs at http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c04109270 or see http://www.hp.com/go/dataprotector for general info, some videos, and an 60-day eval trial license/download.
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by:David Johnson, CD, MVP
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you need 2 licenses for the server 1 for each physical machine
Sql 1 License and 1 CAL for every user that directly or indirectly accesses the sql server
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by:wgroup
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My apologies, I forgot to include the fact that the request is to backup two servers; one with SQL.   Symantec BackupExec 2014 license is what I am referring to.
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by:pgm554
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Are you using BE right now?

If you aren't ,there are a whole lot better suite of solutions out there.

Symantec is a love hate thing with a lot of sysadmins.
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by:wgroup
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yes, I am and utilizing the upgrade facility.
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by:wgroup
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Symantec pulled a fast one on me.   Absolutely ridiculous licensing structure.   Just because we use a storage blade and is external to server, I have to have separate core product license on both the servers.   I am truly disgusted with these clowns.
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by:pgm554
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Are you using tape as a backup?

If not ,then the Windows built in back is OK.

Otherwise ,there are products from Storagecraft,Acronis and Retrospect.

http://www.retrospect.com/en/support/kb/competitive-analysis
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by:SelfGovern
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wgroup, that's one of the reasons I suggested you consider Data Protector.  One Cell Manager license and you can back up an unlimited number of servers/desktops/laptops (you do need to buy extensions/agents if you want to back up online applications like exchange/database/VMs, and that Cell Manager covers one tape drive, but you can add backup-to-disk or additional tape drives to the licensing).
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by:wgroup
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I did look at the Data Protector yesterday and it also came close to $2k.   Did not see much of a diff but I found good reviews about the project though.
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Ended up buying two core licenses as the servers are accessing a logically separated partition on a storage device.   Highway robbery!!1
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Had to close the ticket myself as the solution suggested by Symantec was to buy two core licenses.
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