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I have a new SBS 2011 install.  Normally I do not install WSUS, as we use another program to update the PC's automatically.  I always manually update the servers.  On this install of SBS 2011, I installed WSUS on this SBS 2011 server with the wizard, since this client wanted to use this feature.  After doing so, I wanted to manually update the SBS server itself by going to windows update, but it tells me that WSUS is in control.  I checked in the security/updates tab of the SBS console.  Server updates = none and this server in not in the included or excluded section either.

How do I get manual updates to be allowed on the SBS server itself?
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by:Gareth Gudger
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DId you configure a GPO to manage the updates at the domain level? Sounds like your SBS box is inheriting this GPO.
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by:JackAitken
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Have not created any GPO's manually.  This has been migrated from an SBS 2003 server.  Wonder if it carried over.  Where do I look to find this setting?
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by:Gareth Gudger
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Yes. If it is the same domain/forest a GPO would have carried over with an upgrade.

Open Group Policy Management Console and check all the GPOs attached at the domain level. These are likely the best places to start to look for Windows Update configuration.

Did this just occur with the install of WSUS? Or has it always been this way? Because if you didn't create the GPO.....then it is likely something else.
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by:David Atkin
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Hello,

Have you gone into the SBS Console and done a Syncronization for WSUS?

If you haven't done an initial Sync then it may indeed show no updates.
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by:JackAitken
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Yes I did a sync and it shows nothing.  The SBS server is not there to include or exclude.
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The SBS Server won't be in the list because it is the server. Do you have any updates in progress on the SBS Console?  Or any that need to be accepted?
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by:JackAitken
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None.  I've never had an issue manually selecting windows updates on the servers.  Must be a hidden GPO that is preventing this.  I didn't set it, so it must be a carry over from the migration.  Also, I see that the option for windows update in IE is not in the list of choices under tools.
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by:David Atkin
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It is a GPO yes, the GPO's that will be applying the settings will be:
"Update Services Server Computers Policy"
"Update Services Common Settings Policy"

The Commons settings Policy will be specifying the WSUS Server location.  I don't recommend that you edit or disable these though as it will affect all machines and not just the server.

Can you take a screen shot of the updates section of the SBS Console please an upload.  Can you also confirm if updates are working for the client machines?
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by:JackAitken
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It is an offline migration so there are no PC's connected yet.
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by:David Atkin
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You say offline, do you mean you're doing a fresh installation of SBS2011 and then migrating data and joining PC's later?
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by:JackAitken
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No, i'm using the swing migration.  Have done it 10 times before, and it works great.  I've not run into this situation because this current migration was not a server I installed or maintained.
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I found the problem.  It was  a GPO that was migrated from the SBS 2003 server that prevented using Windows update.  I uploaded a snip of the policy setting.

2014-10-10---Windows-Update-GPO-Restrict

Thanks
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by:Gareth Gudger
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Awesome. Figured it had to be!
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Confirming the GPO would transfer with a migration was a help.  Unfortunately, the section of the GPO causing my issue was not under the computer configuration.

Thanks
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