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# Is it possible to select a minimum and maximum value from multiple fields in Access 2010?

Posted on 2014-10-16
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I have eight fields that contain counts or percentages of loans made by institution and need to be able to determine which of the these fields has the lowest and highest values.  Ideally, I would use a function like Min([field1], [field2], [field3], etc) to determine which field has the minimum value but no such functions exists in Access 2010.  Each field contains values for a specific category so the values in all fields cannot be combined.  The goal is to show, by institution, which fields have the lowest and highest values.

If someone can suggest a fairly easy way to determine the minimum or maximum value for a group of fields I would appreciate the advice.
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Expert Comment

ID: 40385206
You can do like this .

``````select institution, min(value)
from
(
select institution, 'Field1',min(field1) as value
from table
group by institution
union all
select institution, 'Field2',min(field2) as value
from table
group by institution
union all
.
.
.
select institution, 'Field8',min(field8) as value
from table
group by institution
)a
group by institution
``````
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Author Comment

ID: 40385339
The approach you recommend would be useful if it was necessary to calculate a minimum or maximum value for each field.  In my case there is only one value per field for each institution so there is no need to calculate a minimum or maximum value for the field itself .  The query results may theoretically resemble the following.  Each number represents the value of each field.  The sort is by institution.

Institution 2 (field1), 5 (field2), 4 (field3), 7 (field4), 0 (field5), 9 (field6), 6 (field7), 10 (field8)

What I need is the ability to identify the minimum and maximum value identified for each institution from the eight different fields.  In the above example, the minimum value is from field 5 and the maximum is from field 8.  I want to add a column to the query to calculate the minimum and maximum value of the eight fields.
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PatHartman earned 2000 total points
ID: 40385358
no such functions exists in Access 2010
Nor will you ever see one in any tool that works with relational data.  Functions such as this are used in Spreadsheets because they are not normalized relational tables.  When you have multiple columns like this that occur in a single row, you have a repeating group and a repeating group violates first normal form.  Hence, no support for repeating groups.

If you're not too far down the development road, the best solution is to normalize the table.  This would involve creating a separate table to hold the "many-side" items.

The query suggested by samO4fun normalizes the table on the fly.

If the repeating group is a result of a crosstab, you can modify the crosstab to get the min and max for you.  Generally the crosstab wizard creates only a single Row Heading column and it does a Sum.  I took a query and added a min and max in addition to the generated sum.

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Expert Comment

ID: 40385413
You can modify the function below to accept currency and not dates.
Then:

curMin = CurMin([Field1], [Field2], [Field3], [Field4])
``````Public Function DateMax(ParamArray avarDates() As Variant) As Date

' Return maximum date/time Value of elements in
' array avarDates().
' If no elements of array avarDates() are dates,
' Value of cdatEmpty is returned.
'
' 2003-09-30. Cactus Data ApS, CPH.

' Return Value for an empty array.
Const cdatEmpty As Date = #1/1/100#

Dim varDate     As Variant
Dim varDateMax  As Variant

For Each varDate In avarDates()
If IsDate(varDate) Then
If VarType(varDate) <> vbDate Then
varDate = CDate(varDate)
End If
If varDate > varDateMax Then
varDateMax = varDate
End If
End If
Next

If IsEmpty(varDateMax) Then
varDateMax = cdatEmpty
End If

DateMax = varDateMax

End Function
``````
/gustav
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Author Comment

ID: 40385420
Pat,

The values that appear in fields 1 through 8 are determined using queries that either sum the count of all records or calculate a percentage.  You are correct in that my values come from a crosstab query and tried the examples you suggested.  They do work but the caveat is that null values are ignored (probably as expected), and if there are multiple columns with identical values the first field with the same value is identified as either minimum or maximum.  This requires that one be attentive to what is happening but I'm guessing this approach is the best option based on your comments.  Thanks for providing it.
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Author Comment

ID: 40385484
Gustav,

Thanks for your code example.  For my purposes Pat's recommendation is better suited to my needs but I will keep your example for possible future use.
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Expert Comment

ID: 40385636
Access functions ignore nulls.  So if you average:

3, null, 3 you get 3
but
3, 0, 3 gives you 2

So, you need to control whether a column returns 0 or null to get the result you want.  In almost all cases, I have numeric values default to null because I want the first result.  If I have no value, I don't want the record included in the aggregation.  Once someone provides a value, if that value is 0, it has meaning and so should be included.

As to which column Access chooses when there are duplicate values - at least it is consistent.  I'm not sure you can ask for more.  You would need to write a custom function to get a different result but what would you want it to be?
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